Mmmmm...Cosmic dougnut!

The New York Times ^ | 3/11/03 | DENNIS OVERBYE

[gomaaa]

Seriously, though. I don't mean to be overbearing. I'm not moderating this discussion, and I don't intend to try. I was kidding on my earlier post and didn't intend people to take me seriously. I just wanted to have an argument that didn't involve DNA, RNA, YEC, ID, or other BS.

[AndrewC]

I was kidding on my earlier post and didn't intend people to take me seriously.

That should be seriesly. And the article points out a hugh discovery.

[js1138]

Legitimate science articles don't generate enough heat to last more than 50 posts. A few complaints here and there about how the writer oversimplified things and you're done.

That's because reasonable people who can read will quickly come to a consensus about what the article says and whether it's important.

If you want the thread to last you have to yank a few nutball chains.

[Charles Martel]

Kindly restrict yourselves to comments on cosmology, astrophysics, the Simpsons, and confection science!

And video games, can't forget the video games. I played "Space War" back then in the computer age's stone knives and bearskins epoch, and it was cool! IIRC, you could switch the edge of the screen from "Wraparound Universe" to "Bounce-back Universe", which caused your spacecraft to rebound from the edge with a "boinnng" sound! Let's see astrophysics wrestle with that model! ;-)

Oh, yes... you could also select the gravity level of the sun, and *negative* gravity was an option. Neat game, with early "Asteriods" type B&W graphics.

[AndrewC]

Legitimate science articles don't generate enough heat to last more than 50 posts

This is from the New York Times and not Nature.

[js1138]

You might try reading at least to my second sentence before spouting off.

[gomaaa]

Yeah, I'm getting to that conclusion. It was nice to talk about universal pretzels and the physics of video games, though.

*Sigh*

Back to arguing about experimentation Vs. observation. Because there are SO many obvious differences.

[AndrewC]

I did. The article still comes from the New York Times and not Nature.

[js1138]

We snagged one. Looking forward to #1000.

[ALS]

[AndrewC]

We snagged one. Looking forward to #1000.

Yes, you are rather perturbed by someone pointing out the fact the article is from the New York Times and not Nature so should not be considered "legitimate" science, but about science.

[MHGinTN]

Well doughnut would work, if the spatial universe began as a linerar phenomenon, then went planar, then volumetric ... forms a doughnut, among other 'shapes'. I wonder, does the distortion potential of the temporal influence make the spatial expression change from linear to planar to volumetric? [I know, I should just stay on the porch and let the big dogs run ...}

[js1138]

the article is from the New York Times and not Nature so should not be considered "legitimate" science, but about science.</>

You can always win the prize for saying things that are true and irrelevant. Almost all the articles posted on FR come from the popular press, and those written by practicing scientists are nevertheless written for the general public.

[AndrewC]

You can always win the prize for saying things that are true and irrelevant.

It was you that mentioned "legitimate" science and responses. I posted relevantly to your mention of those items. Don't mention those things and most likely you will not evoke a response.

[jennyp]

Now it is time for us on FR to look at the evidence and once and for all decide the argument that has plagued us all for so long. The question that has reduced otherwise sane and intelligent people to name calling and the occasional metaphorical smackdown. Can we finally resolve this and bring peace to the science threads?

Krispy Kreme or Dunkin' Donuts?

Krispy Kreme, definitely. The long-lived vibrations throughout the universe, with some damping of the lowest-frequency waves, strongly suggest a yeasty, spongy texture, as opposed to a rigid, cake-like texture.

But I could be wrong. I think I'll go try to convince hubby that we need to perform further experiments...

[jennyp]

Heck, at Krispy Kreme you can even watch the Donut Inflation stage occur before your eyes! (According to this model, the Donut Inflation stage occurs for the first 10 minutes of the universe's life, IIRC.)

[Junior]

I'm sorry, but I belong to the cake-donut heresy. Greasy, tooth-achingly sweet donuts are the devil's tools.

[Physicist]

ping

[RadioAstronomer]

Thanks for the ping! Very interesting read!!