To: Sofa King
"Perhaps it would be more clear if I said that whatever the government does with it's enumerated powers is caring for the general welfare of the nation, and this clause means that it can use taxes to pay for it." - Sofa King
And thus, so would go the same for "common defense, such that every aspect of our defense would have to be enumerated in your view by the logic you list above.
"Whatever powers this gives to the federal government concerning the "common defense" are irrelevant since the government's authority to raise a military and defend the nation are enumerated elsewhere." - Sofa King
No, I don't buy your above explanation, as that would mean that whole parts of our U.S. Constitution were REDUNDANT and thereby unnecessary.
Let's not go throwing out whole parts of our Constitution just so that it starts to fit your world-view, shall we...
50 posted on
04/06/2003 7:08:28 PM PDT by
Southack
(Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: Southack
"And thus, so would go the same for "common defense", such that every aspect of our defense would have to be enumerated in your view by the logic you list above."
Thus clauses 11, 12, 13, and 14, as explained by the very next line in my post.
"No, I don't buy your above explanation, as that would mean that whole parts of our U.S. Constitution were REDUNDANT and thereby unnecessary."
You're the one supporting a redundant view of the Constitution. You're saying that they went through the trouble of listing a bunch of federal powers, only to add a single clause that said that the federal government can do just about any damn thing it wants, thus making all of the other enumerated powers redundant.
I'm saying that the clause you posted doesn't give any power to the government other than to tax, and to use the taxes to pay for the powers listed elsewhere. There is no redundancy there. Besides, the constitution WAS written by human beings, and as such would not be flawless. A one-line redundancy (as would be the case if your claim about my interpretation was true) isn't unrealistic. 17 Clauses of redundance (as would be the case if your interpretation was true) would be.
60 posted on
04/06/2003 7:34:59 PM PDT by
Sofa King
(-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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