[Mr. Mojo]

I don't like how they have managed to phack up our alliances ..................I don't like how the neo-cons do not want to come before congress at any point along the way to war for authorization.

Your criticisms are fair ones, except the above two. NATO is a dinosaur of an alliance without any clear purpose now that the Soviet Union is gone, so what alliances are you referring to? I'd just assume NATO dissolved and we formed new alliances with nations that share our interests. The UN will also probably be a casualty of this "phack up" in alliances, and from where I sit, that's a very good thing.

The administration went before Congress in October, and got all the authorization they needed to take care of business in Iraq.

[Destro]

oh I agree NATO is dead--its the argument that the neo-con pundits champion that this coalition of the willing is of any merit. Coalition of the billing is more like it. That kind of either intellectual dishonisty or willful ignorance is what I can't stand. I think because neo-cons as ex-Marxists see eveything as "inevitable" and thus blind themselves to pragmatic solutions. Its all revolution for them.

Again, I am not against the Iraqi mission, I just judge the results of how the mission set-up is being handled and the debate framed by the neo-cons and it makes me lukewarm.