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Saddam link to Bin Laden
THE GUARDIAN ^ | 2/6/1999 | Julian Borger

Posted on 03/16/2003 10:45:03 AM PST by IowaHawk

Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi opposition officials.

The key meeting took place in the Afghan mountains near Kandahar in late December. The Iraqi delegation was led by Farouk Hijazi, Baghdad's ambassador in Turkey and one of Saddam's most powerful secret policemen, who is thought to have offered Bin Laden asylum in Iraq.

The Saudi-born fundamentalist's response is unknown. He is thought to have rejected earlier Iraqi advances, disapproving of the Saddam Hussein's secular Baathist regime. But analysts believe that Bin Laden's bolthole in Afghanistan, where he has lived for the past three years, is now in doubt as a result of increasing US and Saudi government pressure.

News of the negotiations emerged in a week when the US attorney general, Janet Reno, warned the Senate that a terrorist attack involving weapons of mass destruction was a growing concern. "There's a threat, and it's real," Ms Reno said, adding that such weapons "are being considered for use."

US embassies around the world are on heightened alert as a result of threats believed to emanate from followers of Bin Laden, who has been indicted by a US court for orchestrating the bombing last August of embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, in which 259 people died. US delegations in Africa and the Gulf have been shut down in recent weeks after credible threats were received.

In this year's budget, President Clinton called for an additional $2 billion to spend on counter-terrorist measures, including extra guards for US embassies around the world and funds for executive jets to fly rapid response investigative teams to terrorist incidents around the world.

Since RAF bombers took part in air raids on Iraq in December, Bin Laden declared that he considered British citizens to be justifiable targets. Vincent Cannistraro, former chief of CIA counter-terrorist operations, said: "Hijazi went to Afghanistan in December and met with Osama, with the knowledge of the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar. We are sure about that. What is the source of some speculation is what transpired."

An acting US counter-intelligence official confirmed the report. "Our understanding over what happened matches your account, but there's no one here who is going to comment on it."

Ahmed Allawi, a senior member of the opposition Iraqi National Congress (INC), based in London, said he had heard reports of the December meeting which he believed to be accurate. "There is a long history of contacts between Mukhabarat [Iraqi secret service] and Osama bin Laden," he said. Mr Hijazi, formerly director of external operations for Iraqi intelligence, was "the perfect man to send to Afghanistan".

Analysts believe that Mr Hijazi offered Mr bin Laden asylum in Iraq, most likely in return for co-operation in launching attacks on US and Saudi targets. Iraqi agents are believed to have made a similar offer to the Saudi maverick leader in the early 1990s when he was based in Sudan.

Although he rejected the offer then, Mamoun Fandy, a professor of Middle East politics at Georgetown University, said Bin Laden's position in Afghanistan is no longer secure after the Saudi monarchy cut off diplomatic relations with, and funding for, the Taleban militia movement, which controls most of the country.

Mr Fandy said senior members of the Saudi royal family told him in recent weeks that they had received assurances from the Taleban leader, Mullah Mohamed Omar, that once the radical Islamist movement secured control over Afghan territory, Bin Laden would be forced to leave. "It's a matter of time now for Osama." He said Bin Laden would have a strong ideological aversion to accepting Iraqi hospitality, but might have little choice.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; binladen; iraq
Breaking news from 1999: talks between Bin Laden & Saddam, reported by the house organ of the Loon-Left.
1 posted on 03/16/2003 10:45:03 AM PST by IowaHawk
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To: IowaHawk
1999 - During clinton, nobody gave a damn. If slick did his job instead of getting a job, things might have turned out different.....
2 posted on 03/16/2003 10:48:15 AM PST by b4its2late (Law not enforced is not law.)
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To: IowaHawk
who is thought to have offered Bin Laden asylum in Iraq.

Under the current circumstances that would not appear to be a really mouth-watering offer.

3 posted on 03/16/2003 10:49:14 AM PST by arthurus
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To: IowaHawk
Good work, Iowa.
4 posted on 03/16/2003 10:50:17 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: IowaHawk
This must be wrong. The liberals have been whining that there IS no connection between Saddam and Osama.
5 posted on 03/16/2003 10:52:19 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: IowaHawk
And according to US News Magazine 'Washington Whispers' Clinton had the shot to take OBL out in 1998 with a missile and played phone tag with the situation room.
6 posted on 03/16/2003 10:53:55 AM PST by ewing
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To: Teacher317
This must be wrong. The liberals have been whining that there IS no connection between Saddam and Osama.

Yes, but it depends on what the meaning of "IS" is.

7 posted on 03/16/2003 10:54:09 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: ewing
And Clinton had another opportunity to nab Bin Laden in 1998 when Sudan offered his head on a silver platter, but he was too busy playing grab-@$$ with Monica Lewinsky.
8 posted on 03/16/2003 10:55:55 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: IowaHawk
*bookmarked*
9 posted on 03/16/2003 10:56:12 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: IowaHawk
Great Post...thanks
10 posted on 03/16/2003 10:57:28 AM PST by dinok
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To: IowaHawk
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11 posted on 03/16/2003 11:14:26 AM PST by Republican_Strategist (Win the War on Terrorism - Bomb Iraq!)
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To: IowaHawk
Cannot be correct. Saddam is "Secular", therefore he would never work with a "Religious" person like bin Laden, no matter how identical their goals and enemies are.

Everyone knows that. ;-)

12 posted on 03/16/2003 11:31:48 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: IowaHawk
wow.....GOOD work.
13 posted on 03/16/2003 12:39:25 PM PST by rwfromkansas (Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: IowaHawk
Nice catch--thanks!
14 posted on 03/16/2003 12:42:11 PM PST by NautiNurse (There's something very fishy about this story...)
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To: IowaHawk
But hey... there is NO PROOF Iraq was involved in 9/11.

Right? Right?!
(crickets)

15 posted on 03/16/2003 1:11:41 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (When news breaks, we fix it!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
BTT
16 posted on 03/16/2003 1:12:52 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: IowaHawk; RonDog; Dog Gone
Analysts believe that Mr Hijazi offered Mr bin Laden asylum in Iraq, most likely in return for co-operation in launching attacks on US and Saudi targets.

My guess is that bin Laden was happy to cooperate and Iraq threw him a few bucks in exchange for a bit of friendly consultation on target selection.

It's pretty suspicious that bin Laden went after the WTC, since the early 1993 attack was almost certainly Iraqi-influenced. So Iraq chose another go at the WTC, and bin Laden provided troops and motivation.

That hangs together awfully well, in my view.

D

17 posted on 03/16/2003 5:09:48 PM PST by daviddennis (Visit amazing.com for protest accounts, video & more!)
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To: daviddennis
BTTT ... your analysis works to my mind. Salman Pak was a training haven for nearly every terrorist group willing to come to Baghdad. Documents discovered in Afghanistan show the visits of Iraqi 'Mukbars' to train al Qaeda in production and use of bio and chem weapons. But it doesn't matter to the democrats who wouldn't accept proof if it was irrefutable. They're too bitter about being turn out of power and too involved in trying to prevent this administration from succeeding in the war against terrorism to stop and care about America's safety or the real risks facing US.
18 posted on 03/16/2003 8:40:55 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I don't think they're sitting in their offices trying to figure out how to destroy America. I think they're just trying to save their own skins. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the results of their actions much different.

I try not to descend into tinfoil hatting, but there does appear to be a connection between the 1993 attack on the WTC and both Iraq and Bin Laden. It seems weird to me that this is not used as part of the case against Saddam today. I'm sure that within the administration it's well known and a major reason he's being targeted, but it's something I'd dearly love to learn more about.

Finally, I wish I could understand the left position. It appears to be inspired by folks like Noam Chomsky, who can sound pretty impressive to the naive and impressionable. But after a little while, you get to understand that his argument simply takes everything we do as aggression, while ignoring what the opposite side does to provoke it. You don't learn about Palastinian suicide bombers from him; you just learn that Israel, with American support, has killed billions of Palastinians.

Unfortunately, the whole left seems to argue like that. Their more erudite case seems to be that we supported Saddam against Iran, so it's hypocritical for us to go back and clean up the mess now. But that means the mess will never be cleaned up. I just can't take that kind of argument seriously.

D

19 posted on 03/17/2003 7:48:50 AM PST by daviddennis (Visit amazing.com for protest accounts, video & more!)
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To: IowaHawk
Excellent Job!!!
20 posted on 03/17/2003 9:54:50 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
BTT
21 posted on 07/18/2003 12:47:13 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: IowaHawk
btt
22 posted on 07/18/2003 9:33:37 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: IowaHawk
Iraq-Bin Laden boat bomb link

USS Cole: 17 dead mourned as experts piece together attack

Special report: Israel and the Middle East Special report: Iraq

Julian Borger in Washington Thursday October 19, 2000 The Guardian

[Mr Cannistraro] argued that the sophistication of the bomb - an estimated 272kg of high explosive shaped and placed within a metal container to channel the blast and penetrate the armoured hull of the USS Cole - suggested the involvement of a state.

"The Iraqis have wanted to be able to carry out terrorism for some time now," Mr Cannistraro said. "Their military people have had liaison with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, and could well have supplied the training."

He said the theory was still speculative but was consistent with the series of recent contacts between Baghdad and the Bin Laden organisation.

23 posted on 07/24/2003 9:53:16 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: IowaHawk
Clinton-Era Reports Cited Saddam-bin Laden Ties
24 posted on 07/24/2003 9:55:57 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: IowaHawk
The "Experts" Speak:

Some of the most cited anti-terrorism sources--and their “credentials”


25 posted on 07/24/2003 10:00:40 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: IowaHawk
OSAMA BIN LADIN AND IRAQ
Iraq News, FEBRUARY 10, 1999

Vincent Cannistraro, former Chief of Counterterrorism Operations for the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, has suggested a very sensible and quite clever explanation for what was going on at al-Shifa--why it turned out to be a pharmaceutical factory; why the US had compelling evidence linking it to VX; and why it can't be found now. When US officials were obliged to defend their decision to attack the al-Shifa plant, after the Aug 20 strike, they revealed an Iraqi link to al-Shifa, as reported, for example, in the NYT Aug 25. US officials also revealed the existence of other sites in Khartoum thought to be associated with Iraq and VX production. Clinton chose al-Shifa as a target, because it was the only VX-related site not near a populated area.

Although the CIA did not know al-Shifa made pharmaceuticals, the State Dept did, because al Shifa was authorized by the UN sanctions committee to ship medicines to Iraq. Cannistraro suggested that Empta, manufactured at another Khartoum site, was stored, even perhaps packaged, at al-Shifa, to be sent to Baghdad, under UNSCR 986, looking to all the world like a pharmaceutical product.

That would explain how Empta could be found in a soil sample outside the facility-a leak/spill?; but also why extensive tests in the facility subsequently, including of the septic tank, did not detect it. It would also explain why Iraqi CW personnel had contact with a pharmaceutical plant. Moreover, Iraqi intelligence would think of something like that. Indeed, Scott Ritter, in his Sept 3 Senate testimony [see "Iraq News," Sept 7], explained that Iraq was importing proscribed and dual use material under cover of UNSCR 986.

26 posted on 07/24/2003 10:10:26 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: optimistically_conservative; IowaHawk; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; devolve
I just heard FOX News mention this very article a few minutes ago .....


27 posted on 06/30/2004 10:18:02 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: IowaHawk

The Guardian under THEIR President Clinton.


28 posted on 06/29/2005 11:11:19 AM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: Howlin

Europe before George Bush, the evil Christian.


29 posted on 06/29/2005 12:00:06 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Love it!


30 posted on 06/29/2005 1:49:39 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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