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1 posted on 03/17/2003 12:06:57 PM PST by yonif
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Is there not even one Frenchman left in all of France who remembers 1944? Where is the French equivalent of Gordon Sinclair's The Americans?
2 posted on 03/17/2003 12:14:13 PM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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In every living thing you do, boycott France, for yourself, your family, your country.

BOYCOTT FRANCE FOREVER


3 posted on 03/17/2003 12:21:25 PM PST by Enduring Freedom
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"This is not about Saddam Hussein, and this is not even about regime change in Iraq or ... missiles or chemical weapons," explains Pierre Lellouche, a conservative Parliament member and former foreign-policy adviser to Jacques Chirac. "It's about whether the United States is allowed to run world affairs."

This statement could have been made by Mad Maddie or both of the Klintoons. This is their goal. I wonder when/if the American people will ever understand this.

4 posted on 03/17/2003 12:25:06 PM PST by rwgal
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To: yonif
This reminds me of something...
5 posted on 03/17/2003 12:26:57 PM PST by new cruelty
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Man I hate leftists. For the last 150 years the one an only American foreign policy imperitave has been constitutional democracy + religious freedom + freedom of speech + economic freedom = good government. We have given away every worthwhile piece of territory that so much as asked politely. We don't lecture Sweden on the evils of socialism, nor did we lecture England when it was socialist.

The simply stated Bush policy is that countries where people have individual liberty don't start wars.

9 posted on 03/17/2003 12:36:41 PM PST by js1138
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It isn't only France, it's the whole collection of internationalists who have heretofore found opposing the U.S. a risk-free means of self-aggrandizment. It is ultimately an attempt to avoid the necessary expenses and commitments of Mao's dictum that "all political power comes from the barrel of a gun" by subordinating economic and military power to the power of opinion, rhetoric, and public relations. In short, a con game.
10 posted on 03/17/2003 12:38:13 PM PST by Billthedrill
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When you give the French credit for acting on principle, any principle, good or bad, you give them far too much credit. The French are all petty thieves. Jack Chiraq is simply motivated by the bribe he will receive (more likely, the bribe he has been getting that will cease) for blindly supporting Saddam.
11 posted on 03/17/2003 12:38:35 PM PST by Tacis
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France is also trying to enlist some of her African nations against the US. I believe the US will turn its attention to Africa next, after the Middle East is dealt with.
12 posted on 03/17/2003 12:38:40 PM PST by what's up
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Except for the names and a few other changes, the story is the same one....


13 posted on 03/17/2003 12:39:27 PM PST by Plutarch
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Already posted here.


15 posted on 03/17/2003 12:40:50 PM PST by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. :-)
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The common denominator of the countries against us--- China, Russia, Germany, and France is Leftist politics.

Ask yourself, who is the greater threat to Socialism, a Republican U.S. President or Iraq?

The problem is that since socialism = economic failure, these countries (aside from China) find their GNP and military potential ebbing away.

So use bureacracy instead of military power to try to impede a vigorous U.S. policy. That won't get them very far.

16 posted on 03/17/2003 12:48:43 PM PST by Plutarch
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France believes it can position itself as the head of a global opposition to America. It believes that American dominance has reduced global politics to a simple choice between alternatives.

But it really doesn't want the mantle of the former USSR; really doesn't want to fight a Cold War. That would require too much muscular conflict. Rather, it plans to turn the diplomatic forums of the world into a debating platform for anti-Americanism. For it is in talk, rather than action, that France excels.

Abandoning the United Nations will bring America only a temporary respite. France will hound America like a paid chicken-suited protestor. Not a Greenpeace rally, not a World Wildlife Fundraisers, not an Organization of African Unity meeting, without France in attendance.

The American answer should be assymetrical warfare: attack the French weaknesses. The principal weaknesses of France are manifold: a plethora of dictatorially run African countries; a tendency to dominate other European countries; a large and hostile Muslim population; and a weak economy.

The first line of action should be to encourage France's African dependents to break away from Madame Le Republique. The second should be to encourage other European countries to challenge France for leadership positions in the EU. The third would be the flood France with every Arab refugee that emerges.

We should take the offensive. Hound France at every international gathering the way we hounded the USSR. Aren't there human rights violations in France? Why is there no First Amendment in France? Is it true that women are raped in the French Muslim tenements because they have no veils? Is is true that France is supporting dictators in Africa? Isn't it true that Chirac has engaged in corrupt practices? Isn't it true that France is reviving the Dreyfuss wave of anti-semitism?

Psychologically, France is like a rude and supercilious waiter with its hand out for a tip. The best way to deflate a creature like this is put a mousetrap in his pocket, a knuckle sandwich in his gut, and stogie in his puking mouth.
17 posted on 03/17/2003 12:49:32 PM PST by wretchard
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ChIraq will pay dearly for this...
18 posted on 03/17/2003 12:50:28 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (Why do business with gerdung firms?)
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This column is along the same lines as Mark Steyn's more in-depth column of a few weeks ago, It's not really about Saddam.

-PJ

19 posted on 03/17/2003 1:27:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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Yeah but France will now never get paid the tens of Billions its owed by the Iraq that WAS headed by the FORMER dictator Saddam!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

And as Bush has pointed out yesterday only US and private (i.e. those that stood with us) will reconstruct Iraq!

21 posted on 03/17/2003 1:34:38 PM PST by Kay Soze (France - "Where the worms live above ground")
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bump
24 posted on 03/17/2003 3:36:28 PM PST by Stultis
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Too much importance is being given to non-entity France.
28 posted on 03/17/2003 9:31:34 PM PST by RecentConvert (Let's control immigration before immigration controls us.)
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Interesting, perceptive article. But here's the problem: just as Americans are pariots and put their own country's interests first, shouldn't Frenchmen be patriots and put their own interests first? Shouldn't we all have a preference and allegiance to the respective countries and cultures that bore and nourish us?

Speaking as an American, I don't want to rule the world. In fact, I emphatically do not want to rule the world. And I can certainly understand why the world does not want to be ruled by America, and why some see a strategic need to block the USA from overplaying its strength. I'm not saying the Frogs are fine fellows; just that it's a funny old world and sometimes people need to be told "no" for their own good.

Absolute power is a scary thing, especially when it's vested in a government one has never voted for and especially when it has contemptuously dispensed with the quaint concept of "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind."


29 posted on 03/17/2003 9:50:51 PM PST by Romulus
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