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To: kattracks; nmh
That's it. Over the past couple of weeks, I've made some statements expressing my disgust with the Vatican's position on this war, but I've tried to maintain some semblance of respect. But I've had it. The Vatican can go straight to hell, because the voice that issues from it is the voice of Satan, not God's. It wasn't always this way, but it certainly is now.

All through the pedophile priest scandal, I tried to give the Vatican the benefit of the doubt. Accusations against it enraged me. But now, it is the Pope who enrages me. If he cannot see that the hand of God has chosen to smite Saddam and deliver the Iraqi people from bondage, using George W. Bush and the US military as His sword, then the Pope doesn't know God from a moon god. This constant indictment of this righteous war to remove an evil and bring liberty to an oppressed and brutalized people is totally uncalled for and very insulting. It is beyond being just moral equivalence. It is calling good evil and evil good. I expect that kind of twisted, upside down morality from liberals, leftists, socialists, and communists everywhere... but when the Vatican displays it, it is obscene and grotesque and the greatest evidence yet of the Great Apostasy. That the Vatican should demand that we bow before the will of the UN and so-called "international law" is little more than telling believers to submit to the Beast.

If anybody wants to call me a Catholic basher, save your breath. I used to castigate Catholic bashers. Now, I have to call it as I see it. And what I see is a Catholic Church that has turned AWAY from God, a Catholic Church infiltrated by leftist, communist wolves in sheep's clothing doing their damnedest to fool anyone weak enough not to see through their disguise. What better way for Satan to deceive people than to appear as an angel of light, to disguise himself as a man of God? Jesus said, "A tree is known by its fruit." Well, the fruit of the Vatican these days is rotten and full of worms. This is a moment in human history when God has reached down with His hand to upset the status quo and push His plan for humanity to the next step, and the Vatican is resisting it along with all those who we already know are opposed to God. So whose side is the Vatican on -- God's, or Satan's? For anyone who has eyes to see, the answer to that question is self-evident.

And so, I wash my hands of the Pope. He is not God. He is supposed to be God's highest representative on earth, but he most certainly isn't representing Him any longer. I prefer to put my faith directly in Christ and in God, and totally bypass the Pope and the communist-infiltrated Church. There is a big difference, getting bigger every day, between being Catholic and being a Christian.

14 posted on 03/22/2003 4:03:54 AM PST by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: laz17
That the Vatican should demand that we bow before the will of the UN and so-called "international law" is little more than telling believers to submit to the Beast. - Agreed!

These recent outbursts would have any true catholic questioning their faith. My only issues are:

1. This is reported by anti-catholic organizations (the media)
2. The Pope is old - has he gone senile?
3. Is he being controlled by those around him?

17 posted on 03/22/2003 4:17:25 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: laz17
What goes by the name of the Catholic Church now is not. They are heretic impostors who have robbed us of our Church and Faith.

They mollycoddle pedophiles and murderers. They refuse to evangelize. They turned Holy Mass into a play-acted travesty. They have watered down the faith to the point of non-recogniition. The only sins for them? Racism, sexism, and war.

And yes, the Second Robber Council, Vatican II is directly at the center of this. The end result of that was some queer organization calling itself both verbally and in its official documents "The Conciliar Church". This Conciliar Church continues to occupy our houses of worship and hold its impostures there, but it won't for long. Its votaries are dying off (and now being arrested too) and not being replaced. There are no replacements because they have decimated the seminaries so that far fewer men are ordained than die or leave the priesthood.

The only locus of growth is in the supporers of the traditional Latin Mass and traditional Faith. We are also the only ones having any appreciable numbers of children, which is why when you go to a Conciliarist service, you see a sea of grey heads. "Such a group hath a dying ring ..."

23 posted on 03/22/2003 4:27:40 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: laz17
Good post. ....Took a lot of courage.
94 posted on 03/22/2003 10:37:55 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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