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To: vannrox
As someone with a Master's in Physics, all I can say is...

KA-BOOM!

The conclusion, if true, is going to cause decades of dogma to be tossed out the window.
56 posted on 03/28/2003 7:25:51 PM PST by Windcatcher ("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
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To: Windcatcher
Re: "The conclusion, if true, is going to cause decades of dogma to be tossed out the window."

DOGMA is the appropriate word. Dogma is a theological concept. Some scientists were blurring the line between science -- what the physics shows -- and metaphysics -- the interpretation of what it means.

The physics isn't changed by this discovery. QM still works. The interpretation -- the dogma -- is challenged. Quantum theory is not predicated upon these quantum bits. It survives.

73 posted on 03/28/2003 8:16:46 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Windcatcher
The conclusion, if true, is going to cause decades of dogma to be tossed out the window.

And this is good. Because as history teaches us, once old theories, propped up and supported by the iron fist of the prevailing ideologies established by the scientific authorities of the era are thoroughly discredited, an explosion of new knowledge follows.

It happened in the recent past when the changes wrought by the acceptance of plate tectonics burst on to the scene as quickly as did the changes that accompanied the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain.

My personal prediction of the next Big Fall will be that of the Big Bang, or at least the relation of redshift to cosmic distance, and the vindication of Halton Arp and his long published observations that have yet to be explained within current cosmological models.

Arp et.al. propose what they once called "The Gang Bang" theory of cosmic evolution (circa 1990) as contrasted to the Big Bang, in which matter is continuously being created in the universe, and redshift is inversely proportional to the age of matter.

P.S. The innocently named title of a paper by Arp and a dozen or so collaborators containing the phrase "Gang Bang", resulted in a firestorm of condemnation that quickly resulted in the retraction of the article. Their report is probably still out there, but with a different title. I know I have the original somewhere in my files and I searched for it more than a decade ago and couldn't find it, so it would probably be even more difficult for me to find it today.

Can anyone point me to the original source?

74 posted on 03/28/2003 8:17:58 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining
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To: Windcatcher
The conclusion, if true, is going to cause decades of dogma to be tossed out the window.

I have always thought that the physicist 800 years from now, with get quite a kick out reading today's accepted theories. They haven't scratched the surface......

172 posted on 03/29/2003 2:13:09 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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