[UCFRoadWarrior]

Hmm...this is the only good argument for staying in the UN...that we still have our veto in the Security Council. This has been mentioned by Bob Dornan and others

Though....would the UN work to remove our veto? And, they ignored Iraq and Saddam for so long...whats to stop them from ignoring any US veto?

Its time to get out of the UN. The UN and its members have no power or will to stop the US anyway. The US exit from the UN would make totally un-credible even more.

What I would like to see....is legislation that will allow the US to try internationals for war crimes against the US...tried in US courts, not the ICC or other World Courts

[Poohbah]

Though....would the UN work to remove our veto? And, they ignored Iraq and Saddam for so long...whats to stop them from ignoring any US veto?

Only the knowledge that the full wrath of the United States will fall on the UN and the nations that announced that they were overruling a US veto.

Of course, having been raised by Mama Poohbah to be nobody's fool, I sure as f*** would not willingly annoy the US.

[Jhoffa_]

I'm not really trying to put forth an argument to remain there..

What I am actually looking for is the long view of what would happen if we just flat withdrew. Today, right now.

Who is going to fill this vacuum, how much success would they have, how would it be minifested and what would the UN look like in 5 or 10 years?

Would it collapse? Or become a powerful, destructive instrument of some nation or coalition of nations (to a greater degree than it has already, I know.)

Its more of a hypothetical than an argument to remain, as I hate the UN and always have.