Raid Finds al-Qaida Tie to Iraq Militants (Strongest Evidence Yet)

AP ^ | 3/31/03 | DAFNA LINZER and BORZOU DARAGAHI

[WarSlut]

extremist

militants

Arab fighters

Ansar fighters

Ansar leaders

Ansar militants

Ansar activists

Islamic activists

Ansar and al-Qaida activists

Ansar members

Ansar fighters

Ansar militants

I f***ing HATE the Associated Press.

[WarSlut]

but I seriously don't think Hussein in his secularist standpoint would be very accepted by the whackos in AQ

Yet UBL, AQ's spiritual leader, had absolutely no problem whatsoever working hand-in-hand with the infidel Americans in liberating Afghanistan from the Soviets. But now he's going to turn his his back on Saddam's billions because of his "purity".

I heard Mike Farrell make the same argument.

[WarSlut]

UBL's justification for murdering Americans at will (courtesy of his 2/23/98 Fatwa):

"First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples."

"If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it."

"The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless."

"Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation."

"So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors."

"Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there."

"The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula."

Notice no mention of the millions of Muslims that Saddam the infidel brutalized in Iraq, Iran and Kuwait. Notice all three points stress the protection of Iraq's Ba'athist regime.

Nah, UBL would never take Saddam's money and support to elevate himself. No way.

[jwfiv]

Some of your points would be valid if the islamokazis kept their feuds regional, but they won't.

The fierce chaos I referred to would be Islamism boiling over, doing it's best to infect the world all round...free to develop the means of mass-murder which they would surely turn on us and the world around them.

The path you seem to advocate gets us not free from entanglement...it would get us dead.

[truthandlife]

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[truthandlife]

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[ez]

...but I seriously don't think Hussein in his secularist standpoint would be very accepted by the whackos in AQ, no matter if they had the same goals.

from the Osama tape released before the war...

" The prophet said, those who fight to uphold the word of God, it is for the sake of God. It doesn't hurt, under these conditions, that the interests of Muslims contradict the interest of the socialists in the fight against the crusaders.

That's with our belief and our disclosure that the socialist are infidels. The socials and those rulers have lost their power a long time ago. The socialists are infidels where ever they are, whether they re in Baghdad or in Aden.

This fight that's going on, or that will be going on one of these days, resembles to a great extent, the fight of Muslims against the Romans and the contradiction of interests does not hurt because the fight against the Romans was against the interest of the Persians but that did not hurt the disciples of the prophet."

Osama says it is OK for Muslims to assist the Iraqis (socialists) against the Crusaders, even thought they are infidels.

[BOBTHENAILER]

While we're at it, we can politely request the extradition of Mugniyah. If Iran doesn't "cough 'em up", we go get them.

If we know their location, it woud seem a simple matter to have some slight gps malfunctions occur on a few dozen jdams.

[hchutch]

I wonder what else they will discover. I don't think we've even hit Salman Pak yet, and that is gonna be the mother lode, I bet.

[Chuckster]

I'm with you on just about every point. This conflict, however, is different. As I see it, the problem is that the folks in charge are trying to fit size 9 feet into size 7 gloves. Our enemy is NOT a nation-state so engaging in war on say, Iraq and not Iran or Syria for example, is not the solution. Part of the solution yes, but attacking this country or that country will not get the job done. The problem is that no one seems willing to state the obvious and the post-Clinton US Military is not up to the task unless it's broken down into bite (country) sized chunks.

Unfortunately, just as WWII is considered to have begun with the Japanese invasion of Manchuria in 1931, I believe that WWIII began in 1980 with the Iran hostage "crisis", possibly earlier. I am very much afraid that this war will ultimately engulf the entire world and it must eventually become clear to all that the entire muslim world is aligned against the judeo-christian West and that the communists are cheering them on and may well jump in on their side.

This is, in my opinion, the greatest challenge to the existence of this country since the British burned Washington during the War of 1812. I expect that by the bicentennial of that event, we will be "Fully involved" in a fight for our lives.

The Lord knows I hope and pray that I'm wrong; that the fall of Baghdad will be the end of it. But I will continue to stock up on .30-'06, and .45ACP.

[Chuckster]

Sorry for the long rant :-)

It wasn't that long and you are right on the money.

[mabelkitty]

But that's impossible!!

Tom Daschle told me the war on Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terrorism, and besides that, we have North Korea to worry about.

Why would he say that if it wasn't true?

(sar/off)

[Darksheare]

Just read.

[JohnGalt]

I don't understand; you said it was a closed case, why would we need more evidence?

(/sarcasm)

[VOA]

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[Darksheare]

You don't understand because you have no understanding.