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Canadians hurl abuse at U.S. hockey peewees
The Globe and Mail | Wednesday, April 2, 2003 | By INGRID PERITZ

Posted on 04/02/2003 7:47:05 AM PST by TonyWojo

MONTREAL -- A peewee hockey tournament in Montreal became a trip into hostile territory for a busload of Americans who say they encountered such fierce anti-Americanism that they will think twice before returning.

During a four-day visit, boys travelling with their Massachusetts hockey team witnessed the burning of the Stars and Stripes and the booing of the U.S. national anthem. When travelling in their bus emblazoned with a red-white-and-blue "Coach USA" logo, they saw people on the street who extended their middle fingers or made other angry gestures.

On the ice, the Canadian players told their visiting counterparts that "the U.S. sucks" and dispensed other anti-American insults, the Americans said.

"It was a shock to go to a tournament and have kids saying this to us. These are our friends that are doing this," Brockton Boxers coach Ernest Nadeau said.

"We didn't expect Canadian players -- especially young boys -- would take things to that extreme," he said in an interview.

The 11- and 12-year-old boys from Brockton, 30 kilometres south of Boston, had been looking forward to the hockey tournament in Montreal. But parents who accompanied them said they were unprepared for the depth of anti-American sentiment over the U.S.-led war against Iraq.

One parent, Bill Carpenter, was so upset he cancelled his family's vacation to Quebec this summer.

"We were very offended by the whole thing," said Mr. Carpenter, who accompanied two sons on the trip.

"I understand the opposition to the war. But we were made to feel unwelcome just about anywhere we went.

"Montreal is a 5½-hour drive for us. It's not like we were travelling to Syria or France or Germany," he said. "As Americans, we felt in the past that Canada was our closest ally and friend. No one told us we were heading into unfriendly territory."

The trip soured soon after the Americans rolled into Montreal on March 20.

Their bus entered downtown Montreal just as hundreds of college and university students were marching through the streets in an antiwar demonstration. Police cruisers spotted the U.S. bus and escorted it to its hotel on Sherbrooke Street as a safety precaution. A police officer urged the visitors to remain in the bus until the protest passed.

The children watched as several demonstrators made obscene gestures toward the bus. A U.S. flag was dragged through the street.

"We felt horrible," Mr. Nadeau said. "How would you feel if the Canadian flag was dragged down the streets in the U.S.A.? This is a country that's supposed to be our ally."

That night, about a dozen families went to the Montreal Canadiens-New York Islanders game at the Montreal Bell Centre, a much-anticipated visit planned months in advance. In a gesture later condemned, the U.S. national anthem was widely booed by the crowd, leaving the visiting American children perplexed.

"The kids were just questioning, 'Why are they doing this?' " said David Cruise, who was there with his 12-year-old son. "It's hard for them to realize we weren't in America any more; we were in a different country.

"I said, 'They're booing our national anthem because they don't like us.' "

Mr. Cruise felt so uncomfortable that he left with his son after the first period. "Whether you're for or against the war, we have guys over there dying," Mr. Cruise said. "The next time, we'll stay in the States. I'm not going back there again."

The visitors say anti-American comments continued when the young players faced off against the Beverly Bandits, a team from Beverly, Ont. U.S. players say the Canadians hurled insults during face-offs and at other times.

"They told us we sucked, gave us the finger and said 'Down with the U.S.A.' or 'The U.S.A. sucks," Mr. Nadeau said. At one point, a Canadian player made a disparaging remark about the United States "and the referee turned around and said, 'I agree with you.' "What stunned us was that the referee, who is supposed to be unbiased, is agreeing with the boys on the ice."

His players "wanted to retaliate" against the Canadians, but Mr. Nadeau said he urged them "not to do anything foolish."

Denis Desrochers, president of the minor hockey team in Beverly, west of Hamilton, said in an interview that he had heard nothing about the anti-American slurs.

"It boggles my mind that the kids would say that. They don't even talk about it," he said. "I wouldn't tolerate it. Whether you're American or Canadian, you're not allowed to swear at any kids." On Saturday, Mr. Carpenter went for a walk downtown with his two children as another antiwar demonstration unfolded in Montreal -- one of several that drew huge crowds in a province staunchly opposed to the war.

Mr. Carpenter came across a knot of demonstrators surrounding a protester who, with an Iraqi flag and a U.S. flag, had climbed atop a traffic light.

The crowd cheered when the man waved the Iraqi flag, and booed the U.S. flag, Mr. Carpenter said. Then the protester doused the U.S. flag in kerosene.

"It went up in a puff of smoke and flames, and the crowd went wild. They were all cheering," said Mr. Carpenter, whose 24-year-old son, a U.S. Marine, was sent to retrieve bodies of Americans killed in the 2001 terrorist bombing of USS Cole in Yemen.

Mr. Carpenter tried to explain the anti-American displays to his children. "I said to my kids, 'These folks disagree with our government, not you personally.' "

As they crossed the border into the United States, cheers went up in the bus. "We were very, very happy to get back home," Mr. Nadeau said.


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Prime Minister of Canada "Chirac" or is it Critien? KEep the US dollar home. Drink Bud not Molson.
1 posted on 04/02/2003 7:47:05 AM PST by TonyWojo
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To: TonyWojo
they encountered such fierce anti-Americanism that they will think twice before returning.

Although it's just a short drive, it's been years since I've been to Canada. Guess it'll be years more before I go back, now. And it's time to quit that occasional Labatt's.

2 posted on 04/02/2003 7:49:47 AM PST by Eala
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To: TonyWojo
"These are our friends that are doing this,"

Guess again.

3 posted on 04/02/2003 7:50:30 AM PST by Eala
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To: TonyWojo
Very sad.
4 posted on 04/02/2003 7:50:42 AM PST by xJones
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To: TonyWojo
Way to go, Canada. That country is really getting on my nerves.
5 posted on 04/02/2003 7:51:04 AM PST by Rammer
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>"Montreal is a 5½-hour drive for us. It's not like we were travelling to Syria or France or Germany,"
6 posted on 04/02/2003 7:51:38 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: TonyWojo
The first mistake was going there, the second was not punching their lights out, the third was not skating off the ice and going home at the first insult.
7 posted on 04/02/2003 7:52:47 AM PST by boomop1
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To: TonyWojo
ODE TO FORMER-FRIENDS

The Yanks and Brits and Aussies
Are shedding blood tonight
In a just war to free Iraqis
They are dying for what's right

And the soldiers look to left and right
And are struck by what they don't see
They don't see the Hosers by their sides
Canada chose France and Germany

Former-friends now call them bastards
And jeer when their song is played
And a friendship they once thought was strong
Has been rapidly unmade

And it hurts their hearts and strains their minds
Like a death in the family
Canada has not chosen wise
Canada is dead to me

-- Lexington Green


8 posted on 04/02/2003 7:52:56 AM PST by Lexington Green
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To: Rammer
It is now "Al Qanada".
9 posted on 04/02/2003 7:52:57 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: TonyWojo
Too bad Canada has succumbed to the Anti-American hysteria going out in the world today. They will regret it - and we know many Canadians do NOT feel this way. But, it is a sad day to read about the Canadians who do. My grandfather was Canadian who came to this country to make a living. Right now, I would shake the dust off my feet if I left Canada and vow never to return.
10 posted on 04/02/2003 7:53:49 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Lexington Green
bump
11 posted on 04/02/2003 7:54:18 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: TonyWojo
We have this happenning in downtown Atlanta......

Boycott Georgia????

There is a radical element in most countries including our own....The real question is what is the Canadian Government doing? They put some of their soldiers on the ground with us in Afganistan.....many gave up their lives in battle and a friendly fire incident.

Keep in mind, I'm not overly happy with the Cretien (french) Montreal based government either....

My initial reaction is to let it blow over like a small child throwing a temper tantrum.....

NeverGore
12 posted on 04/02/2003 7:54:24 AM PST by nevergore (If stupidity hurt, Frenchmen would be writhing in pain....)
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To: TonyWojo
It would seem their is a shortage a class in Canada these days. How freakin sad.
13 posted on 04/02/2003 7:54:30 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Dialup Llama
getting hockey dads upset could be suicidal.
14 posted on 04/02/2003 7:56:16 AM PST by magua
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To: sheik yerbouty
"Al Qanada"

Gut busting laughing my you know what off bump!

V


15 posted on 04/02/2003 7:56:50 AM PST by Beck_isright (If Susan Sarandon pooped in the woods, would ELF boycott her?)
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To: sheik yerbouty
There are many Canadians like me who are supporting the USA and have done a major rally etc.

These Canadian people in Montreal who did this should be thrown in jail.

But to lump all Canadians in the same boat as some have done on this thread is pretty disgusting. I have had many run ins with some pretty disgusting Americans too. But I know they are the minority and that most in America all really good people.

Same goes for Canadian people.

hawk

16 posted on 04/02/2003 7:56:51 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: Lexington Green
But we were made to feel unwelcome just about anywhere we went.

If any one goes down to Hollywood Beach FL be sure to bring a Canadien Flag to burn the Beach there is loaded with American Hating (sun worshipping) French Canadiens.

17 posted on 04/02/2003 7:57:33 AM PST by TonyWojo
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To: sheik yerbouty
It is now "Al Qanada".

Yes! Qanada it is from now on.

18 posted on 04/02/2003 7:58:07 AM PST by jwalburg (Knowledge is power; power corrupts.)
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To: TonyWojo
The U.S. is the only reason that Canadians are free to voice their opinions.

Without us they'd have been invaded a long time ago.
19 posted on 04/02/2003 7:58:37 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: TonyWojo
Note that the headline comes from MONTREAL - I doubt the western, english Canadians are so opposed to the war.
20 posted on 04/02/2003 7:59:05 AM PST by Mister Magoo
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