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This NYT article was run in the Minneapolis Star Diaper Tribune 04/03/2003.
1 posted on 04/03/2003 3:04:19 AM PST by clueless idiot
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The thing that bothers me about these 'celebrity pundits' is that they have the means to escape the misery that they inflict upon everyone else with their good intentions.
2 posted on 04/03/2003 3:25:33 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (Im just asking)
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Janeane Garofalo, a comedian and actress who has been outspoken in opposition to the war, says the antipatriotism charge seems meant to "shut down debate and thwart First Amendment rights.

"We are extremely supportive of the troops," she said. "Anyone who says yes to peace and diplomacy is saying yes to the troops."

This is a patent adaptation of antiUS propaganda and reasons to support Saddam Hussein when the former ones do not work. These people are marshmallows.

And, no they are not supportive of troops. No they are not supportive of truth and peace for truth. And no, the first amendment is not shut down when denounciation and refusal to spend time on lies is enacted. There is a limit to freedom of speech, and it is proselytism and fake currencying and deception.

3 posted on 04/03/2003 3:41:33 AM PST by lavaroise
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Janeane Garofalo...says the antipatriotism charge seems meant to "shut down debate and thwart First Amendment rights.

Or, Janeane, this is simply your opposition using their First Amendment rights and enouraging a debate of your (misguided?) statements. ~~ Get used to it; your free ride is OVER!

5 posted on 04/03/2003 3:53:20 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia (This war is just - and we fight with honor. May God bless our troops.)
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I hope they don't mind my "right", "freedom", "choice" to boycott them. Hope that "stuns" and "chills" them into "silence".
6 posted on 04/03/2003 4:02:53 AM PST by Professional
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"For all the talk of boycotts and damaging careers, though, there's little evidence that the campaigns have significant economic impact. While the Dixie Chicks suffered the drop in airplay, their album was at No. 7 on the Billboard charts"

Au contraire Clymer. I heard tell there was also a 40% drop in sales. BTW, where was the album on the charts before the comments? *foot tapping*

7 posted on 04/03/2003 6:42:43 AM PST by eureka! (Bless our Troops and Allies.........)
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memo to NY Times.. just get the address right
8 posted on 04/03/2003 6:44:54 AM PST by ewing
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Mike Farrell, who played B.J. Hunnicut on the "M*A*S*H" TV series and who is a strong supporter of many liberal causes, said such tactics amount to "an orchestrated attempt to undermine free speech and the right to dissent."

And yet, the liberals try to shut out speech that does not meet their requirements. If you are going to be political about any issue, you are going to suffer the backlash of those who disagree with you. These idiots have been doing this to conservatives for years and now they want to whine about it when it happens to them...wahhhh, mommmmy, he hurt my feeeelllinnngss.

11 posted on 04/03/2003 7:08:36 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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Here's something really simple so that the uneducated, illiterate, sophmoric, inane, entertainment dunderheads can understand since most of them have only a secondary level education.

The right to free speech doesn't make what you say right.

12 posted on 04/03/2003 7:19:13 AM PST by N. Theknow
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"If they want to call me a Saddam-lover, that's their right," he said. "But if they set out to affect me professionally, that's different."

Well, this just in, Saddam-lover: as a performer, shooting your mouth off and making people want to turn the channel affects you professionally.

What, you're going to sue everyone who changes channels when they see your smarmy face because they're denying your livelihood?

Where do they hatch these nincompoops anyway?

13 posted on 04/03/2003 7:20:46 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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http://freerepublic.com

You get your 15 minutes of fame and they spell your name wrong.

14 posted on 04/03/2003 7:21:33 AM PST by js1138
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People who make their livings on the basis of public approval (ex: ticket sales, cd sales, ratings) had better be prepared to kiss the public's behind. They don't like it, they can try to find another day job.
15 posted on 04/03/2003 7:21:56 AM PST by mewzilla
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I think people should go to "Dr." Farrell for foreign policy advice as much as they do for medical advice.

*Paging Dr. Farrell and Nurse Garafallo* our patience is up.

19 posted on 04/03/2003 7:35:29 AM PST by techcor
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The Hollywood liberal limousines operate from a conscious or subconcious pathology of guilt - the guilt that they make money doing essentially unreal things - and that they are as even tottering ol' Al Anon member O'Toole explicitly reminded them "entertainers" nothing more and nothing less.

Since they essentially survive by creating and selling fantasy, they need to expiate/atone for their guilt - and what better way than to hide behind the first amendment, by bashing the "real" actors - those dying for their freedoms.

20 posted on 04/03/2003 7:38:03 AM PST by eleni121
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21 posted on 04/03/2003 7:42:59 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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"If they want to call me a Saddam-lover, that's their right," he said. "But if they set out to affect me professionally, that's different." Farrell

Yeah, but it's okay for him (and his ilk) to try to affect President Bush professionally, and I am sure many other's...what a friggin' hypocrite!

23 posted on 04/03/2003 7:52:33 AM PST by mutejesseJ
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re: David Clennon, an actor on the CBS show "The Agency," about the CIA, said that after he spoke against the war on Sean Hannity's radio show, listeners who opposed his views began a campaign to get him fired. "I was upset and fearful and angry to be targeted in that way," Clennon said. )))

"I play an man of action on TV, but I'm just a weinie in real life."

re: Mike Farrell, who played B.J. Hunnicut on the "M*A*S*H" TV series and who is a strong supporter of many liberal causes, said such tactics amount to "an orchestrated attempt to undermine free speech and the right to dissent. "If they want to call me a Saddam-lover, that's their right," he said. "But if they set out to affect me professionally, that's different." )))

"Rightwingers have to pay a price for speaking out, but a leftwinger should always get a pass. How dare my grabbing the public soapbox affect my public career!"

24 posted on 04/03/2003 7:55:26 AM PST by Mamzelle
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Together with talk radio and evening political talk shows, the online organizing has created a formidable gantlet for celebrities who choose to make their political opinions known.

Be still my heart.

25 posted on 04/03/2003 8:09:18 AM PST by Balata (I am Rita Cosby's source.----Honk, if you've been a source to Rita Cosby.----)
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"If they want to call me a Saddam-lover, that's their right," he (Farrell) said. "But if they set out to affect me professionally, that's different."

MEMO TO MIKE FARRELL: Oh, how wrong you are, Mike. You see, you just can't have it both ways, pal. If I find out the owner of my local 7-11 is a terrorist supporter, I'm not gonna shop there. And if I find out some actor is a dictator supporter or is someone who says he's against a dictator but won't say how to oust that dictator, let's say someone like you, Mike, I won't watch his TV show. Get it? You have the right to mouth off and I have the right to not watch. And neither of those rights is more important than the other. It's that simple.

By the way, Mike, aren't you setting out to affect the president professionally? Hmmmm? Of course you are, moron. And I bet you weren't concerned about affecting Dr. Laura professionally by boycotting her show for comments made about homosexuality, were you? And, as silly as it sounds, aren't you trying to professionally affect the correctional officer who begins the lethal injection of a convicted murderer everytime you yap about capital punishment? Of course you are. It goes with the territory.

Look, Mike...at least have the conviction to stand by your principles (such as they are) all the way and take full, not partial, responsibility for them. If you're unable to do so, don't expect anyone to take you seriously. All you accomplish is making yourself look like just another pathetic liberal wanting everything on his own terms. In case you haven't noticed, Mike, life just doesn't work that way, not even in Hollywood.

27 posted on 04/03/2003 10:13:23 AM PST by blake6900
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Janeane Garofalo, a comedian and actress who has been outspoken in opposition to the war, says the antipatriotism charge seems meant to "shut down debate and thwart First Amendment rights.

Janeane, you silly bitch.  No one disputes your right to speak.
Allow us our right to 'shut down debate' by expressing our opinions
of you also, whether by refusing to buy your products or just
walking away.  The First Amendment limits government and
no one else.

29 posted on 04/03/2003 6:22:04 PM PST by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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31 posted on 04/03/2003 10:43:45 PM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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