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BOSE ORDERS EMPLOYEES TO REMOVE FLAGS FROM STORE ???
G. Gordon Liddy SHow | 4 April 2003

Posted on 04/04/2003 12:14:32 PM PST by 11th_VA

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To: 11th_VA
Why buy Bose? I recently bought a pair of DEFINITIVE TECHNOLOGY tower speakers, made in Maryland USA. They are simply awsome.
141 posted on 04/07/2003 7:47:37 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Imagine
i just called them and emailed them....the scum!...freep em!
142 posted on 04/07/2003 7:51:51 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Ah, a fellow Dark Shadows fan...
143 posted on 04/07/2003 7:56:42 AM PDT by hellinahandcart (My name is Victoria Winters. My journey is beginning...)
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To: hellinahandcart
Absolutely! I never paid attention to DS during its original run, but I'm hooked on the Sci-Fi channel reruns. Too bad the Petofi storyline is winding down - my favorite!
144 posted on 04/07/2003 8:15:49 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Good Lord, are they still in 1897? I have most of the series on tape now so I have been watching FR instead of DS.
145 posted on 04/07/2003 8:19:24 AM PDT by hellinahandcart (My name is Victoria Winters. My journey is beginning...)
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To: hellinahandcart
Yep, only for a couple of more days. They were walling up Reverend Trask as of Friday, so the end is nigh.
146 posted on 04/07/2003 8:29:18 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: 11th_VA
Time to FReep and/or boycott Bose.
147 posted on 04/07/2003 8:33:06 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 11th_VA
Thanks for the link.
148 posted on 04/07/2003 8:34:59 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Wright is right!
I would suggest that anyone looking for a decent, halfway-concealable sound system look into the various Home Theater In A Box systems available.

Do these systems automatically adjust low frequency output with volume adjustment? Do they have proprietary software that customizes individual speaker equalization to compensate for specific room acoustics?

You get what you pay for.

149 posted on 04/07/2003 8:38:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Aquinasfan
"Do these systems automatically adjust low frequency output with volume adjustment? Do they have proprietary software that customizes individual speaker equalization to compensate for specific room acoustics? You get what you pay for."

The HTIB systems have a line-level sub output from the receiver which feeds the input on the sub. The sub volume IS ganged with the volume of the other speakers. All HTIB systems do this.

Further, all HTIB systems have Setup Menus which allow the user to adjust the levels to ALL of the speakers individually. None of them, however, have individual-channel EQ - but not even the top-of-the-line Home Theater receivers do this, either. For instance, our receiver is a mid-to-upper level Onkyo, which DOES have "tone controls" (bass and treble) - BUT those only affect the output to the Left and Right Front speakers, and only in Stereo or Direct modes. The system applies NO EQ to ANY channel in any of the Surround modes. Any user that needs individual EQ on a per-channel basis is not going to be buying this type of product - and, secondly, has an acoustically-hostile environment that should be cleaned up first.

If you haven't heard today's HTIB product, you might be very pleasantly surprised.

Michael

150 posted on 04/07/2003 8:47:14 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: vin-one
This is my answer from BOSE: (not a form letter! I was impressed.)

Thank you for your inquiry.

Bose Corporation supports our country, especially in this time of conflict. We support the American flag and the demonstration of that flag. There is no policy against the display of the American flag. Bose is an American company and proud of it

There were decisions made at the local level to take the flag down in isolated Bose stores. This was a mistake and will be addressed. As a company, we fly the flag at all times at our office buildings, and many employees display the flag in their work stations. If you have any questions, please feel free to call our agents at the phone numbers below. Thank you for contacting the Bose Corporation Lee Miller Customer Support Team --------------------------------------------------- Bose Corporation US Telephone: (800)999-2673, ext. EM1 International Tel: (508)766-1099, ext. EM1 Fax: (508)820-3465 Email: http://www.bose.com/contact_us/

151 posted on 04/07/2003 5:32:33 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: 11th_VA
Here is part of the reply I received:

Dear _________,

Thank you for your inquiry. Bose(R) Corporation supports our country,
especially in this time of conflict. We support the American flag and the
demonstration of that flag. There is no policy against the display of the
American flag. Bose is an American company and proud of it

There were decisions made at the local level to take the flag down in
isolated Bose stores. This was a mistake and will be addressed. As a
company, we fly the flag at all times at our office buildings, and many
employees display the flag in their work stations.

If we can be of additional assistance in the future, please contact us toll
free at (800) 999-2673 extension EM1, or email us from our Bose website at:

http://www.bose.com/contact_us/

Thank you for choosing Bose Corporation
Richard C. Tessier Ext. 61021
Customer Support Team
152 posted on 04/08/2003 8:25:46 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Exit148
Oops, I didn't see your reply. It DOES appear to be a form letter, however.

Which merely means that we made more than a dent in there Public Relations department!!!!!!!!!
153 posted on 04/08/2003 8:27:25 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sphinx
I just put together a value oriented home system:

Using the Kef Q7 right now for my main front speakers and for stereo. Kef Q9c for the center speaker. And Kef Q1 for the side surrounds. I have a Velodyne SPL 1200 sub-woofer. The sound is awesome and blows away anything Bose could ever put out.

I am planning to trade out the Q1s for the Q2ds (dipole speaker) for the surrround sound and move the Q1s to my main fronts and switch the Q7s to another room (they are two big for theater room). Q1s should be more than adequate with the Velodyne 1200s. I highly recommend the Velodyne line of subs.

Cost from Uncles Stereo in NYC:

Q7 pair $895

Q1 pair $375

Q9C center channel $350

Velo SPL 1200 sub $950

When I get the Kef Q2ds these will run about $450 for the pair.

I would say the Q7s are unecessary. I would just buy the Q1s and get a good sub-woofer. The Q1s are a very manageable size, just get a stand or bookshelf so they are 12-18 inches of the floor. The Q2ds for the side surround are very compact and designed to mount onto a wall.

The great thing is that Kef is an English company so you can support our allies (thought they do a lot of the assembly and cabinet work in China now).

Beautiful cabinets and pure, clean English speaker sound. Highly recommended.

http://www.kef.com/index2.html

154 posted on 04/08/2003 8:47:09 AM PDT by NV_Chuck
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BOSE PUTS THE FLAGS BACK UP !!! (SHOCK & AWE in ACTION!!!)

e-mail response | Sun April 6, 2003 | Lee Miller, Customer Support Team

Posted on 04/08/2003 12:02 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Thank you for your inquiry.

Bose Corporation supports our country, especially in this time of conflict. We support the American flag and the demonstration of that flag. There is no policy against the display of the American flag. Bose is an American company and proud of it

There were decisions made at the local level to take the flag down in isolated Bose stores. This was a mistake and will be addressed. As a company, we fly the flag at all times at our office buildings, and many employees display the flag in their work stations.

If you have any questions, please feel free to call our agents at the phone numbers below.

Thank you for choosing Bose Corporation Lee Miller Customer Support Team

--------------------------------------------------- Bose Corporation US Telephone: (800)999-2673, ext. EM1 International

Tel: (508)766-1099, ext. EM1 Fax: (508)820-3465 Email: http://www.bose.com/contact_us/

155 posted on 04/08/2003 12:37:25 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Let's Roll)
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To: eddie willers
Thank you for your input to Bose's quality. I will stand behind the products I own, but am always looking for as good as or better products for less. I've got 2 Bose products and am very impressed with them. I'm not an audiophile, nor will I ever be. I like what they've done with their systems for convenience and ease of use. I don't want a whole rack of stuff anymore. That's one reason I went with the Bose 3-2-1, it's an all in one (radio/cd/dvd with hookups for VCR, Satellite and TV) that takes up very little space and puts a good sound in my small listening area.

I was looking at putting a bigger system in when I go to build a new house, but will keep my eye on things other than Bose.

What is your recommendation for something in a home theater system that won't take up half the room for its components? I have limited access to a place to listen to these things or view them and hate the super stores chock full o electronics. The smaller specialty places like their products too and charge a lot for them.

156 posted on 04/08/2003 1:14:03 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Thank you for your input to Bose's quality.

Bose quality is not in question....
They build a solid little product and give great customer service.

Which they SHOULD since their products are grossly, GROSSLY (I just can't stress this hard enough) over-priced.

That's one reason I went with the Bose 3-2-1, it's an all in one (radio/cd/dvd with hookups for VCR, Satellite and TV) that takes up very little space and puts a good sound in my small listening area.

I was glad to see that, 5 years after everybody else, Bose finally got into the 21st century by coming out with a DVD based product.

That is until I went to hook one up.

Arrrghhh...just ONE S-Video input!
Might as well not have ANY.
Five years to think about it...and they STILL screw the pooch!

What is your recommendation for something in a home theater system that won't take up half the room for its components?

I put one of these in the other day and was really impressed.
It has a built-in progressive DVD/CD player with Component out and S-Video inputs/outputs.

The Sub is powered by the built-in amp, but there is a standard sub woofer pre-out that will allow you to upgrade at a later time.

Denon DHT-1000DV

It retails for $1299 and absolutely blows the doors off of the $3000 Bose Life Style.

157 posted on 04/08/2003 2:01:09 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
That is until I went to hook one up. Arrrghhh...just ONE S-Video input! Might as well not have ANY. Five years to think about it...and they STILL screw the pooch!

Yeah, but since I don't have anything with S-Video, and by the time I can afford it, I'll have the Bose relegated to the bedroom, it won't matter.

My dad recently went off the deep end and updated everything he had (kinda like buying a Formula One racer and not even having a learner's permit). He had satellite and a VCR with regular TV. Went and bought a DVD player, a new Sony surround sound processor, a Mitsubishi HDTV with integrated digital tuner, kept the satellite, and VCR...Paid an extra $50 to have the store's "Pro" come out and hook it up.

Three hours of my "will work for Pizza and Diet Coke" time later, we undid the "Pro's" screw-ups and got it running...it would have been less time for me, but I was unfamiliar with the whole concept of everything running through the TV and didn't get to the instruction manual until about half-way through the third hour (I hate manuals, they read like stereo instructions ;-)).

158 posted on 04/08/2003 2:46:10 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Paid an extra $50 to have the store's "Pro" come out and hook it up.

That's what I charge.....per hour.
Of course I come out with test discs, filters, and an SPL meter.
The sound and picture adjustments alone usually take about an hour and a half. (never mind the physical hooking up of the equipment)

I then give a complete tutorial on how to work the beast....

And then leave my home phone number!
(Who says freepers aren't brave? hehe)

159 posted on 04/08/2003 3:32:23 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Redleg Duke
Cambridge Sound Works makes damned fine speakers.

Just bought the 510D multimedia surround sound speakers for my computer.They crank out at 500 watts.I still have my JBL 4312 studio moniters I bought at the PX in Furth Germany back in '85.Sound just as good now as the day I bought'em.

160 posted on 04/08/2003 3:57:13 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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