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To: Hank Kerchief
To say a hypothesis is not falsifiable means that it cannot be proved (or disproved), and, therefore, is unacceptable as a scientific theory.

Two points:

1) To speak of "the scientific method" (as the article does) is misleading and incorrect. There is not only one scientific method.

2) The above sentence begs the question, and is false. There are scientific truths that cannot necessarily be falsified.

Now, it is one thing to say such-and-such is not falsifiable (but may be proven true), and another thing to say there is no evidence to believe such-and such.

9 posted on 04/06/2003 10:41:01 AM PDT by tame
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To: tame
There are scientific truths that cannot necessarily be falsified.

You eaither misunderstand what falsifiable means, or you intended something else for the above. If a truth were falsified, it would not be true. I assume you meant, there are scientific truths that cannot necessarily be tested, which necessarily means, tested in a way that means something. If a test can pass, whether what is being tested is true or not, the test proves nothing. The test only proves something, if it can only be passed if the hyposthesis is true, and must fail (be falsified) if it is not true.

If there are sceintific truths which are "untestable," could you please name one.

Hank

14 posted on 04/06/2003 11:03:43 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: tame
To speak of "the scientific method" (as the article does)

The article doesn't, a reference does.

Are you implying that the methods of science are other than objective?

The above sentence begs the question, and is false. There are scientific truths that cannot necessarily be falsified.

By the above sentence we presume you mean, "To say a hypothesis is not falsifiable means that it cannot be proved (or disproved), and, therefore, is unacceptable as a scientific theory."

But, it is only one sentence in the section, and it can only "beg the question," if you take it out of the context that answered the question. Which you have done.

Do you disagree that, "If a test could "pass" even if the hypothesis were incorrect, passing the test would prove nothing. Passing a test is only, "proof," if passing is only possible when the hypothesis is true, which means the test must fail (the hypothesis will be falsified) when the hypothesis is untrue." If you agree with that, how could it be possible for any hypothesis to be proven (tested true) if there is not single test possible test it must fail, if it is untrue?

I do not think you understand the principle.

Hank

16 posted on 04/06/2003 11:12:27 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: tame
misleading and incorrect

We'll get no further than does the UN in our debates until we all agree to certain definitions. Even Clinton knows that.

41 posted on 04/06/2003 1:25:25 PM PDT by RightWhale
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