[ijcr]

Someone said beware of Greeks bearing gifts. Now we have beware of Greeks. There must be Red Tide in the Mediterranean.

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[11B3]

Hey Greece: We STARTED the UN. We brought it into being, we can take it out just as easily. In other words, STFU.

[aegiscg47]

I think that this is GW's plan all along. Give these people enough rope to hang themselves and make it easier for us to pull out from the UN.

[AlguyA]

"The people are being asked to participate in this new battle — which will determine the new postwar balance of power as well as the prosperity of us all — as they did before the war began, but this time with the hope that there will be acquiescence and agreement."

Interesting. A blatant admission that what is driving European policy is, in fact, not principle but economics.

[jriemer]

UN Vulture Alert!

[longtermmemmory]

The Kathimerini is a left leaning paper. Keep in mind Greece has honored all agreements with the us military regarding use of bases and use of air space. Greece also has an interest is the support of the United States over the Cyprus issue. Given the impotence of the UN and the success of the USA, the Greeks on the street see a potential opening to resolve Cyprus in the Greek Cypriots favor. They view turkey as having made a real political blunder in refusing the US.

The effort to control the peace is normal and to be expected. The Greeks are making no special offers. They have no desire to damage their image and become the next french pariah. They have the olympics in 2004 and have already gone over budget and are behind schedule. Greece used to be a big suppliers of construction men and materials in the preGulf War I time frame, they just want a piece of the action.

The current Greek president, who is currently sitting on the EU's rotaiting presidency, is a member of the Pasok socialist party. He does not have control of the parlament which is controled by the New Democracy party, a conservative party.

If Germany and France, the big EU/Euro currency members, really took the other members seriously they would not be having their own seperate NON-EU meeting. The other EU members are out in the cold and they know it. They also know to blame France.

[expatpat]

......then the UN faces the risk of total invalidation.....

The UN is already totally invalidated as far as anything beyond humanitarian tasks is concerned. The only question is how long it will survive.