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To: Conservomax
When it comes down to it SARS isn't much more deadly than normal viral pneumonia, and it came from a region where most new cold/flu viruses originate.

SARS is much more deadly than viral pneumonia, and much much more likely to put you in the hospital.

Some early mis-info on FR pointed out that hospital acquired pneumonia has a mortality rate of 9%, which was asserted to be higher than SARS. Hospital acquired pneumonia is more deadly than the pneumonia the public is generally afflicted with.

As an aside, the 4% mortality figure currently being used for SARS is computed by simply dividing the number of deaths by the number of victims. It is too soon to know how things will eventually work out, but the Hong Kong statistics are instructive. As of yesterday, Hong Kong had 970 cases. 800 were still in the hospital, some of whom will die. 142 had recovered, and 28 had died. I do not know the average length of a hospital stay, but based on the statistics it seems to be more than 2 weeks.

To say this is nothing more than a really bad cold is absurd.

22 posted on 04/10/2003 9:45:54 AM PDT by EternalHope (We will never forget what France has done.)
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To: EternalHope
Hospitalized Hong Kong SARS (Chicom Flu) cases
Time Cases Increase Dispositon of Cases Dead as % of cases at prior times
Day Date New Week Total Day Week Hospital % Recover % Dead % Hospital Days Day ago 3 Day 5 Day Week 2 Week
Wed 03/19 150
Thu 03/20 23 173 15.3%
Fri 03/21 30 203 17.3%
Sat 03/22 19 222 9.4%
Sun 03/23 25 247 11.3%
Mon 03/24 13 260 5.3%
Tue 03/25 26 286 10.0%
Wed 03/26 30 166 316 10.5% 110.7% Start
Thu 03/27 51 194 367 16.1% 112.1% figure
Fri 03/28 58 222 425 15.8% 109.4% of 4000
Sat 03/29 45 248 470 10.6% 111.7% 10 2.1% is a low 2.4% 3.2% 3.8% 4.5%
Sun 03/30 60 283 530 12.8% 114.6% 13 2.5% Estimate: 2.8% 3.5% 4.5% 5.3%
Mon 03/31 80 350 610 15.1% 134.6% 15 2.5% 2.8% 3.5% 4.7% 5.8%
Tue 04/1 75 399 685 12.3% 139.5% 16 2.3% 4,000 2.6% 3.4% 4.4% 5.6%
Wed 04/2 23 392 708 3.4% 124.1% 603 85.2% 89 12.6% 16 2.3% 4,603 2.3% 3.0% 3.8% 5.1% 10.7%
Thu 04/3 26 367 734 3.7% 100.0% 619 84.3% 98 13.4% 17 2.3% 5,222 2.4% 2.8% 3.6% 4.6% 9.8%
Fri 04/4 27 336 761 3.7% 79.1% 645 84.8% 99 13.0% 17 2.2% 5,867 2.3% 2.5% 3.2% 4.0% 8.4%
Sat 04/5 39 330 800 5.1% 70.2% 673 84.1% 107 13.4% 20 2.5% 6,540 2.6% 2.8% 3.3% 4.3% 9.0%
Sun 04/6 42 312 842 5.3% 58.9% 704 83.6% 116 13.8% 22 2.6% 7,244 2.8% 3.0% 3.2% 4.2% 8.9%
Mon 04/7 41 273 883 4.9% 44.8% 733 83.0% 127 14.4% 23 2.6% 7,977 2.7% 3.0% 3.2% 3.8% 8.8%
Tue 04/8 45 243 928 5.1% 35.5% 765 82.4% 138 14.9% 25 2.7% 8,742 2.8% 3.1% 3.4% 3.6% 8.7%
Wed 04/9 42 262 970 4.5% 37.0% 801 82.6% 142 14.6% 27 2.8% 9,543 2.9% 3.2% 3.5% 3.8% 8.5%
Thu 04/10 28 264 998 2.9% 36.0% 814 81.6% 154 15.4% 30 3.0% 10,357 3.1% 3.4% 3.8% 4.1% 8.2%
Averages 39 290 9.1% 88.6% 83.5% 13.9% 2.5% 2.7% 3.1% 3.7% 4.5% 9.0%

27 posted on 04/10/2003 10:07:21 AM PDT by per loin
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To: EternalHope
Granted, but I still don't think it would be an effective bio-weapon. At least one to throw money after.
29 posted on 04/10/2003 10:25:46 AM PDT by Conservomax
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To: EternalHope
'It is too soon to know how things will eventually work out, but the Hong Kong statistics are instructive. As of yesterday, Hong Kong had 970 cases. 800 were still in the hospital, some of whom will die. 142 had recovered, and 28 had died. I do not know the average length of a hospital stay, but based on the statistics it seems to be more than 2 weeks.'
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I have been reading similar statistics from reports in other cities affected by the disease. Aside from the concern over potential fatalities, most coverage of this seems to be missing the point that this disease brings HUGE numbers of extremely sick and highly contagious people to local hospitals for long stays and usually infects at least some medical caregivers, especially early on in the outbreak.

Look carefully at the numbers of those who have been and are still being hospitalized. A hospital with 200 beds is a good sized facility. In our country, most of our facilities are already being well used and filled with all other medical maladies. You can preserve a SARS death rate of 'only' 4% for as long as you have hospital beds and care available for those seriously affected in order to help them pull through.

Once medical resources in an area are overwhelmed and exhausted, not only would the death rate be expected to rise quickly from this disease, but people will not be able to receive the same care they do now for other urgent medical problems. During an outbreak in any given area, the high need for hospitalization which could fill all available beds, plus the risk of contamination and loss of medical personnel to the disease could create an across the board medical crisis.

Like everyone else, I'm trying to sort the fact from the fiction concerning this disease, but these seemingly undisputed facts concerning hospitalizations are disturbing to me.
31 posted on 04/10/2003 10:29:26 AM PDT by Route66 (America's Mainstreet)
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To: EternalHope
"142 had recovered, and 28 had died."

And 28 / (142+28) is 16%.

50 posted on 04/10/2003 2:47:19 PM PDT by Tauzero
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