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Why is African
violence ignored?
New York Daily News ^
| 4-10-2003
| Stanley Crouch
Posted on 04/10/2003 10:29:37 PM PDT by jocon307
A couple of days ago, I went to a lunch to celebrate Paul Theroux's new book, "Dark Star Safari: Overland From Cairo to Cape Town."
"One of the epiphanies of my trip," he writes, "was the realization that where the mode of life had changed significantly in the Africa I had known, it had changed for the worse."
When Theroux and I talked, he observed that he had noticed something very strange in The New York Times in the last couple of days - a short Associated Press story about "966 victims [who] were killed in an April 3 assault on the Roman Catholic mission in Drodro and 14 surrounding villages, 50 miles northeast of Bunia, the provincial capital [of the Democratic Republic of the Congo]."
Theroux was disturbed because he had seen another story in the same edition - twice as long, by my word count - in which great concern was expressed about the declining gorilla and chimpanzee populations of Central Africa; they are being killed off by the Ebola virus and poaching.
To me, his observation is not about a greater concern for animals than for people. It is about the double standard for oppressive behavior. In other words, if those 966 people had been victims of a white colonial regime as opposed to being victims of tribal warfare, it would be a front-page story.
Black journalists, TransAfrica, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, the Revs. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, the Nation of Islam and every leftist periodical and radio station would be screaming bloody murder, and for good reason: It would be bloody murder. But it takes some imagination to blame everything, yet again, on the white man as opposed to the ever-ready demons of human nature. So such atrocities are met with silence.
That silence was also exposed on Oprah Winfrey's March 12 show about the female sex slaves of Africa who have been kidnapped, raped, mutilated, made into erotic toys and slaughtered by the thousands by tribal warriors and rebel units as brutal as any violent men in recorded history.
Again, if those women were the victims of Europeans, you can be sure American Negroes and their leftist compatriots would, correctly, scream down the moon.
But it seems we have no loud concerns about what is going on in Sierra Leone or Uganda, the two examples discussed on the Winfrey show with Naomi Wolf, the writer and journalist, and Catherine Wiesner, head of child protection programs for the International Rescue Committee in Sierra Leone.
Wolf described what she saw in Sierra Leone as an unprecedented sexual holocaust, then introduced Wiesner, whose team sends videotaped messages between abducted girls and their families. The emotional tapes have led to the release of 50 girls. "It's the most rewarding job I can think of having," Wiesner said.
Such atrocities prove that we need a single standard, let the chips fall where they may. Or we need to shut up and stop pretending we are so concerned about the troubled fates of Africans.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: africa; atrocities; paultheroux; racism; sierraleone; stanleycrouch; uganda
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04/10/2003 10:29:37 PM PDT
by
jocon307
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:30:56 PM PDT
by
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To: jocon307
$$$$$$$$$... that's why they're ignored.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:33:42 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: jocon307
I hate to say this, but there's a very good reason the US doesn't ever want to intervene militarily in Africa.
AIDS.
It's a well-known fact that servicemen like their fun. In Africa, that "fun" is likely to be infected. The US government is well aware that the Cuban war in Angola resulted in most of the soldiers sent there being infected by prostitutes. Thus Castro quarantined them when they returned. In the US, the ACLU would never allow a quarantine.
Which is why you won't see US troops in sub-Saharan Africa any time soon.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:34:38 PM PDT
by
Kenno
To: Kenno
That never occured to me. Scary stuff. Perhaps the military should teach the soldiers to keep it in their pants. Besides AIDS, you also have illegitimate children (Vietnam),etc. I didn't know that about Cuba though.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:38:08 PM PDT
by
cyborg
Comment #6 Removed by Moderator
To: gcochran
If you are right, that's worse than not going because there's no dollars in it or because of AIDS. Saddam was a dictator and we went into Iraq because he alleged had weapons of mass destruction and liberate the Iraqi people. However, is this example of what's going in Africa any better than Iraq? It is WORSE.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:48:28 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: Kenno
Nope. There are three real reasons.
(1) There aren't any countries there that are an effective threat to the United States - unlike Iraq.
(2) There is no good economic benefit for intervening - unlike Iraq.
(3) The only effective solution in most of those places involves shooting a few thousand black folks. Which no Republican administration would dare to do. And the Democrats aren't interested in military power projection.
So the Africans are screwed unless they solve their own problems.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:49:08 PM PDT
by
dark_lord
To: cyborg
I suspect there are at least two (and probably more) reasons; 1. Most of Africa doesn't have weapons of mass destruction and while they kill each other, they don't pose a threat to the West. 2. They don't have abundant oil. Sadly, the Mugabe's of Africa seem to have free reign.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:49:48 PM PDT
by
umgud
To: gcochran
Yep, I'm afraid you're right. Too bad. Isn't Africa considered France's sphere of influence? That could explain a lot, also. The trouble is, the only way to prevent the Africans from slaughtering each other is to colonize them, and run them ourselves. Aid in the form of money is wasted or stolen, food is stolen and sold for profit, etc., and warlords rule the day. A sick, sad situation. I feel sorry for them, but there's little we can do for those who will not help themselves.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:49:50 PM PDT
by
jim35
To: umgud
People like Mugabe rule over their people with an iron fist. It's the rank and file who suffer and are trapped. I believe that many Africans do want to help themselves, but the government kills, starves, rapes their children if they don't do what they say. It's sad that governments need to be threatened to get their attention.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:55:17 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: jocon307
Africa is not a vital geopolitical interest. It will be in the future when China has bases on the Atlantic coast, but not until then. Whatever happens in Africa simply does not affect much of the rest of the world, and that is why it is ignored. This might not be a very moral reason, but it is reality.
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posted on
04/10/2003 10:57:20 PM PDT
by
remitrom
To: jocon307
Good column.
To: Kenno
Well, we kind of have our hands full at the moment. What is it we are supposed to do anyway? Most of their problems don't require a military solution.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:08:57 PM PDT
by
RJayneJ
To: dark_lord
So the Africans are screwed unless they solve their own problems.Fancy that! Expecting a country and a people to solve their own (all too often self-made) problems. What is the world coming to?
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:11:11 PM PDT
by
yankeedame
("Oh, I can take it, but I'd much rather dish it out.")
To: cyborg
and they don't pose a threat with WMD...
To: RJayneJ
Exactly.
I'm not sure the point of this article is that nothing is being done by the US, France, or whomever else from the outside, it's that there is no outcry about the attrocities.
And the reason is simple. Racism. Liberal white racism. And liberal black embarrasment that their liberal white friends are racists, who honestly believe that civilized behavior must be demanded of whites, but cannot be expected of blacks. Ugandan President Museveni has discussed this phenomenon at length several times, though he's enough of a statesman to avoid the "r" word, as well as the "l" word.
To: RJayneJ
Where did you get the impression I was calling for one? I was merely explaining why we're not likely to intervene there in the near future even if a good reason does come up.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:25:39 PM PDT
by
Kenno
To: TheHeterodoxConservative
Africa is not civilized, their educational system is non-existent, they have nothing of value, and every possible disease and problem imaginable. Frankly the only thing we should do to Africans is tell them (1) you are morons for living in Africa and (2) move.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:27:52 PM PDT
by
Naspino
To: Naspino
Frankly the only thing we should do to Africans is tell them (1) you are morons for living in Africa and (2) move. Hopefully you're not suggesting they move here.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:31:30 PM PDT
by
Mr. Mojo
To: yankeedame
Do you think every citizen in Africa is responsible for african problems? Not every problem african has is self inflicted, and THAT sentiment can be put upon by every other nation as well.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:34:05 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: jocon307; mhking; rdb3; mafree
mhking, please post to the Black Conservative thread (I don't know how to do that!) First, you need to do a separate post with his name in the "To:" box. That way it will come up on his self search. Please, allow me.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:35:02 PM PDT
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: Naspino
Your ignorance is amazing.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:35:15 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: gcochran
We tried it once, in Somalia. Tragically, the fiasco that was Somalia made it politically unfeasible to intervene in Rwanda. Of course when you had a President that only cared about his own poll numbers, that's how it goes.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:37:52 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: jim35
The French have a policy of supporting French-speaking countries against all others. This is why they supported the murderous Hutus in Rwanda, the Tutsis were aided by English-speaking Uganda. When asked about Rwanda, the pig Francois Mitterrand replied, "in a country like Rwanda, a genocide is not that important."
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:39:45 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: TheHeterodoxConservative
The answer is culture...why are there crack dealers in black neighborhoods throughout the US? Because they allow it and a lot really don't give a damn. You will be hard pressed to find poor white areas with dirtbags on the corners hawking drugs in the suburbs...cultural...think about it.
To: chasio649
Oh please...stop it. Why is it on FR that people do this? You obviously have never been to a poor white neighborhood on Long Island lately.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:45:34 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: cyborg
ok..it's not culture..you are so very right....we are all the same..lalalalalalala...
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Comment #30 Removed by Moderator
To: chasio649
I know as many white youth smoking crack,heroine, X, crystal meth, as anyone else. You just want to get away with saying that black neighborhoods are rife with drugs and white ones aren't without someone calling you on that.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:54:00 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: gcochran
I am sure in the end it's about money. I guess I should not expect much out of the government to do something when it counts, esp. in this situation.
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:55:42 PM PDT
by
cyborg
To: jocon307
Why is African violence ignored?Like they used to say about the Mafia, "They only kill each other."
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posted on
04/10/2003 11:56:13 PM PDT
by
The Great Satan
(Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
To: cyborg
That's exactly what i am saying...and i am sure those little white boys are dressed like hiphop gangsta wannabes...so what does that tell you?
To: jocon307
Duh...no oil...no money...Cant save every one
To: chasio649
Actually not really. Most are dressed like they're either in the trench coat mafia, grunge metal or well dressed. Your statements make you sound ignorant and prejudiced. You ought to get more information before you say things like that. Not every black neighborhood is your south central fantasy. Not even South-Central LA is the way rap videos portray it. I went to visit my aunt in South Central, and I was amazed how clean, how quiet this part of SC was.
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posted on
04/11/2003 12:04:57 AM PDT
by
cyborg
To: jocon307
Crouch makes way too much sense for a liberal.
He's coming over to our side.
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posted on
04/11/2003 12:07:54 AM PDT
by
Rome2000
To: cyborg
To: jocon307
If it wasn't for the MidEast Oil, the Arab/Israeli conflict would be ignored like the Hutu and Tutsis.
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posted on
04/11/2003 12:44:06 AM PDT
by
Willie Green
(Go Pat Go!!!)
To: chasio649
I never said you were ignorant. I said your statements make you sound ignorant. But this discussion we are having is not on the topic of this thread. I would be more than happy to discuss it in FReepmail with you. Otherwise, I have nothing else to say.
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posted on
04/11/2003 12:47:06 AM PDT
by
cyborg
To: cyborg
I'll tell you why Africa is ignored (but I'll bet you already know).
There is NO vital interest there for the USA. We have no business there.
If the UN weren't a bunch of commie/socialist/dictator loving wimps, this would be what they were created for. But alas, they are a worthless organization.
There you have it -
1) not our job
2) can't be done by the people whose job it is
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posted on
04/11/2003 2:23:34 AM PDT
by
mhking
("It's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...")
To: Kenno
Since April 1, 2003
Welcome to FR.
Total BS. Nice try.
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posted on
04/11/2003 3:20:42 AM PDT
by
KeyWest
To: chasio649
Agreed. Only a naive fool wearing rose colored glasses, or in other words, a liberal, would insist that we're all the same and there are no cultural differences.
To: gcochran
Most of African has fallen under the rule of Marxists. THAT, in my humble opinion, is why those who usually yell loudest about human rights, aren't making much noise. They don't care what socialist Ba-athists do to their own people, they don't care what Kim Jong Il does to his people, they don't care what Castro does to his people, they don't care what happens in China, South America, the Maghreb.... it's all overshadowed completely by the "atrocities" in Israel, dontchaknow.
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posted on
04/11/2003 5:38:57 AM PDT
by
Anamensis
(Human Shields = wankers)
To: gcochran
Mainly, nobody cares.
Why bother?
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posted on
04/11/2003 5:40:05 AM PDT
by
bert
(Don't Panic !)
Comment #47 Removed by Moderator
To: dark_lord
You are dead on. Especially with no 3. Can you imagine the reaction from the left if we did in Africa what we are doing in Iraq? Make no mistake, the only solution is the "aggressive use of force".
To: cyborg
Are you referring to the lack of financial interest the US has in these areas ? My own take, sadly, is that it
is because these are not people of "European" heritage.
To their credit, the only sector which has been interested in these stories are the Christians in this country.
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posted on
04/11/2003 8:29:52 AM PDT
by
happygrl
(Praying without ceasing)
To: gcochran
It must be nice to have a simple, stupid theory of how the world works. Oh my, I didn't realize I was addressing the morally and intellectually enlightened and illuminated. Pardon me for not recognizing you, milord. So what's your complex, subtle, nuanced and sophisticated theory? "They don't care cause they're racist" or "They don't care cause there's no oil there?" And of course, you'll explain just how either of those slogans are more sophisticated than "liberals ignore marxist atrocities because they are marxist."
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posted on
04/11/2003 10:42:51 AM PDT
by
Anamensis
(Human Shields = wankers)
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