Students put their own spin on downloading music

USA today ^ | 4.20.03 | Jefferson Graham

[Cooter]

The Grateful Dead has done quite well via the bootleg tape model.

[Jhoffa_]

It's called "theft"..

[discostu]

No, it will do nothing. Without the push you'll never hear of these bands. If the current distribution model collapses (which I'm not convinced it will, I think there are a fistful of contributors to current music sales decline and internet distribution is but one entry on that list) the industry as a whole will evaporate.

[longtermmemmory]

>>This is theft pure and simple and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law!<<

Is not, is not!


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In order to have a claim that can be remidied you have to have damages. If these peniless students were not going to buy the song anyways and there is no money exchanging hands, where is the diminished value? They have to prove that these individuals were actually going to spend money to have bought these songs and that they DIRECTLY diminished the value of the song.

This is not a criminal case this is a civil case.

[Not Insane]

__the industry as a whole will evaporate.__

I tend to agree. I'm excited to see what industry replaces it.

[Not Insane]

Although your answer is not a succinct as mine, it explains my thoughts better.

[discostu]

Of course the difference is that buggywhips were a simple product with a simple use, music is art it's one of the things that enriches our lives, those are bad things to lose. the world probably won't be a worse place without Brittney Spears, but it most assuredly will be a worse place without Jethro Tull, Pete Frampton, Jimi Hendrix, King Crimson, Meatloaf, Nils Lofgren, Planet P Project and the rest of the catalog of music lieing beyond the very narrow confines of pop.

Oh, and there's still plenty of blacksmiths, that industry has actually grown and subdivided but there's even still classical blacksmiths.

[discostu]

Don't be, it won't be replaced. It will be gone. Music will be reduced to a purely local phenomenon, the entertainment dollars will be gobled up by Hollywood. Internationally released albums will be replaced by crappy special effects flicks.

[daddypatriot]

I'm not into music (hell I can't even play an old style juke box), but I sure would like to buy a set of the playing cards the military is handing out in Iraq. The ones with the Hussein criminal gang's pictures on the cards. If anyone comes up with a sales outlet please let me know. I just want one pack of the cards. I imagine someone is going to make a fortune selling them. Probably the Chinese. Thanks for your help.

[Sofa King]

Actually, we're not headed into any new territory here: we're headed back into old territory.

We're getting back to how things were in Mozart's time.

The truth is, if record companies want to survive, they need to lower prices and concentrate on artists who can create a long-term fanbase.

[discostu]

Not until AFTER they had a body of music released through standard channels. The profit has always een on the tour, that's old news (actually it was the Dead that figured that out), but the albums/ CDs functioned as advertising for the tour. Without the album release there's nothing for the fans to hear before the concert so they actually will have some familiar songs to hear, there won't even be anyway for people to know the name of the band. CDs are the least profitable part of the industry, but they're the linchpin that holds it together, they're the loss leader that drives the tour and the memorabilia that make the real money. Getting rid of the CD is like taking gas away from gas stations, it's not a very profitable item for the gas station but without it you'll never buy anything else from them.

[Not Insane]

I have no problem with anything in your post happening. I haven't had TV in years. I went to the movie theater once in the last five years - because someone gave me a free pass (although I will occasionally rent a movie). I DO download music, but either legally or it's old stuff that I can't even find in used record stores.

When it comes to recorded music and movies: I like to make music, watch others make music, and ride my bike a lot.

[Not Insane]

Seriously, go to Kazaa, select photos, and search for "cards iraq." It's possible they are all there, or will be soon.

[Sofa King]

"What about video games? How much money are you going to make selling Doom T-shirts?"

Well, one thing that the video game industry has is multi-player. You need a CD-key (a 20 digit code that is unique to each copy of the game) to play the game on their servers, and since multiplayer is the big draw, people will have to buy the game.

[CommerceComet]

Please inform me about what so-called Christian college you attend. I want to know which one to have my children avoid.

The "it's stealing" argument might be a tired argument but it is an accurate derivative of an earlier statement "Thou shalt not steal." Care to rationalize your position to the one that made that commandment?

[longtermmemmory]

try kazaalite.com no spyware

[Not Insane]

Actually, it's what I use... 8^>

[longtermmemmory]

there are random key generator programs

[longtermmemmory]

????

[Not Insane]

I have used Kazaa lite for several months now.