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UK: Anger at France could raise anti-euro passion
Financial Times ^ | April 12 2003 | Christopher Adams

Posted on 04/12/2003 9:04:41 AM PDT by knighthawk

Tony Blair could pay an unexpected and unwelcome price for the war against Saddam Hussein, according to a Financial Times survey, which suggests that public anger with France's stand on the conflict could make it harder for him to win a euro referendum.

While the prime minister's personal standing has soared with crucial "swing voters", he will have a near-impossible task winning support among Conservative-turned-Labour voters if he calls a referendum on entry into the single currency, according to a focus group conducted for the FT by Opinion Leader Research.

The findings show that as campaigning gets under way for next month's local elections in England and legislature elections in Scotland and Wales, the prime minister is basking in the kind of Falklands-style victory that propelled Margaret Thatcher to her second term in office.

But hostility to euro membership has hardened as a result of the French and German decision to stay out of the war. While admiration has grown for the prime minister, participants in the New Labour-style focus group of "switchers" - former Tory voters who moved to Labour in 1997 - were unanimous in their view that it would be foolhardy to seek to join the euro.

Problems are also piling up on the domestic front, with increasing frustration at the perceived failure to deal with rising numbers of asylum seekers.

The anger at other European countries suggests Downing Street's strategy of attempting to isolate France in the build-up to the conflict may have dented the prime minister's hopes of calling a referendum soon. The results may also, in part, explain why Mr Blair decided against announcing the results of Labour's economic assessment on joining in the Budget.

The survey was similar in format to those regularly conducted by Labour's own pollsters and was carried out on Thursday evening, the day after US and British forces occupied Baghdad.

One participant, Rebecca, a part-time employee with an airline, said: "I have no respect for Europe. They've been cowards, backing out of the war, playing it safe." Keith, an electronics engineer, said: "Germany, France and Russia come top of my list of ones I wouldn't want anything to do with."

At the group, assembled in Langley, Berkshire, members praised the government and the armed forces for a job "well done" in toppling Saddam Hussein. They voiced relief that the war had turned out to be shorter than they had feared only three weeks ago, with fewer soldiers' lives lost than expected.

The fall of Baghdad had strengthened Mr Blair's standing. Moreover, members believed he had been effective in lobbying for the United Nations to be involved in rebuilding Iraq. One participant even paid him a tellingly Thatcheresque compliment, saying he had "put the great back into Britain" and others rejected the notion that he had been a "poodle" of US President George W. Bush.

But there was concern that the war effort would have been wasted if a free Iraq were not established, and doubts over how easy reconstruction would be. The "switchers" believed it was essential to find Mr Hussein "dead or alive", but were sceptical that he would be located. Hostility to France and Germany extended to the strong belief they should not take part in rebuilding Iraq.

There was also scepticism about the causes of the war. Citing the fact that no weapons of mass destruction had been discovered by the coalition, some felt the war had been fought for different reasons, particularly to gain access to oil reserves. Steve noted: "The weapons of mass destruction were a bit of a ruse."

Meanwhile, there was a mixed response to Gordon Brown's Budget. With news in Iraq swamping the chancellor's setpiece event, the group was largely uninterested in what members said was a "small and bland affair".

There was discomfort, however, at the 1 per cent increase in national insurance taking effect.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britian; eu; euro; europe; europeanunion; france; uk; ukpollsoniraq
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1 posted on 04/12/2003 9:04:41 AM PDT by knighthawk
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2 posted on 04/12/2003 9:05:08 AM PDT by knighthawk
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3 posted on 04/12/2003 9:07:16 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: knighthawk
That is very good news. Chirac will be happy, he doesn't want any opposition in the EU, but the big winner will be the British people.
4 posted on 04/12/2003 9:16:12 AM PDT by expatpat
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5 posted on 04/12/2003 9:17:53 AM PDT by JustPiper (Anti-War Protestors Are The Terrorist's Bodyguard!!!)
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To: knighthawk
It's time for a closer union of the English speaking peoples.
6 posted on 04/12/2003 9:31:57 AM PDT by aynrandfreak
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To: knighthawk
I'm smiling at our allies.
7 posted on 04/12/2003 9:37:54 AM PDT by afuturegovernor
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To: knighthawk
England adopting the euro would be a ecconomic error right now. With ten new nations joining the euro, their drain on the EU coffers would be detrimental to England. This whole incident has also shown the disunity of the EU. They do not speak with one voice and no member nation is prepared, willing, or dumb enough to give up their voices in international affairs.

The United States has made significant moves in international relations by using bi-lateral treaties. This cuts into the socialists/UN's ability to control the exercise of US diplomatic power.
8 posted on 04/12/2003 9:37:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: aynrandfreak
It's time for a closer union of the English speaking peoples.

They already have a name for it -- it's called the "Anglosphere" and the predominant group are Australia, the U.S, and the U.K. Barely second is New Zealand. Of course O Canada (eh?) is a minor member (sorry to the good Canadians there) -- and depending on definition one might even include India.

9 posted on 04/12/2003 9:41:21 AM PDT by Eala (irrelevant (î-rèl´e-vent) 1: The United Nations. 2: France.)
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To: Eala
Why in the world would Britain want to be part of a union dominated by weak minded nations? I'll bet the New Europe is asking the same question -- what did we get ourselves into?
10 posted on 04/12/2003 9:45:29 AM PDT by Naspino
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To: Eala
Except I'd find India to be a better ally than either New Zealand or Canada
11 posted on 04/12/2003 10:10:38 AM PDT by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: knighthawk
Does anyone know of public opinion polls in the UK? I haven't seen any lately....in terms of support for the war. ?
12 posted on 04/12/2003 10:18:35 AM PDT by byrdy
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To: byrdy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2289772.stm

Also the support increased when then war started.
13 posted on 04/13/2003 6:07:19 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: longtermmemmory
England adopting the euro at any time would probably be an economic mistake of great magnitude, and definitely a political error of enormous proportions. However, according to Sunday Telegraph Gordon Brown will put forward a report saying that Britain (or Euroslavia) has failed at least three of the five economic criteria deemed essential for Britain to join. Thus, any further discussion on joining the euro will be delayed until after the next election, probably 2005.

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14 posted on 04/13/2003 7:03:25 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
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To: knighthawk
This is great news.....if England stays out of the EU it will not succeed, and that's good for the US.....

After Chiraq is gone, then EU not until the prick who thinks he's the leader of the EU is gone

I will not forgive him for sending that dirt bag devillipain to work against us......he will find out soon enough that crossing the US is a poor choice

15 posted on 04/13/2003 7:09:54 AM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
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To: Eala
Your inclusion of India in the Anglosphere perplexes me. The fact that many Indians in this country speak decent-to-good English shouldn't make you think most Indians in India do. But if you still insist on including India in the so-called Anglosphere, you'll also have to include other former British colonies like Pakistan, as well.
16 posted on 04/13/2003 7:14:40 AM PDT by AM2000
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To: Salgak
India has a business interest in good relations with the U.S. However, they're not an ally - note the vocal opposition emanating from memebrs of India's ruling regime to the war in Iraq. Probably not as strident as Canada, but I think probably more so than NZ. IMHO, of course.
17 posted on 04/13/2003 7:16:51 AM PDT by AM2000
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To: knighthawk
It would be sheer maddness for the UK to adopt the Euro. Why on earth would they want to put that kind of economic power into the hands of the continentals?

What the UK needs to do is:

1) Forget about the Euro.

2) Join NAFTA (maybe the US could trade the UK for Mexico?)

3) Stop illegal immigration and the crazy "assylum" system that is turning London into Baghdad-on-the-Thames.

18 posted on 04/13/2003 7:28:06 AM PDT by quebecois
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To: AM2000
The fact that many Indians in this country speak decent-to-good English shouldn't make you think most Indians in India do.

I don't know if India should be in the Anglo-sphere or not ---but judging from some of the telemarketers, people in India don't speak English but they must think they do. At least the ones who immigrate to the US speak English quite well.

19 posted on 04/13/2003 7:51:03 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: AM2000
Speaking English is only a part of being in the Anglosphere. There's a cultural (political) element, which India seems to have acquired from Britain. Beyond that, it was only a tentative inclusion, dependent upon definition.
20 posted on 04/13/2003 7:52:22 AM PDT by Eala (irrelevant (î-rèl´e-vent) 1: The United Nations. 2: France.)
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