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RUSSIA SPIED ON BLAIR FOR SADDAM...
Drudge ^ | 04-12-03 | Unknown as yet

Posted on 04/12/2003 4:12:40 PM PDT by Rocko

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To: for-q-clinton
And China. NKs patron. Russia is led by a bottomless cynic who cut his teeth in the external KGB. The Chinese military has a published strategic doctrine of "assymmetric warfare". Both are recklessly proliferating to anti-American tyrants with ties to international terrorists. Deliberately, over repeated protests, shamelessly.

Great power rivals create the messes. Delusional tyrants risk their entire societies to create the actual weapons with some ability to deny the original source. Suicidal fanatics deliver the actual blows. The assembly line is meant to push a new crisis to the front as fast as the old ones can be cleaned up. Useful idiots, fifth columns, opposition leaders and parties in the intended victims and international organizations are supposed to gum up responses, run propaganda campaigns, and help future recruitment.

The eventual goal of the strategy ranges from maximum "upside" only the zealots long for - the US a smoking irradiated ruin after a century of nuclear terrorism, as Bin Laden would have it - to just keeping us busy for a decade or two while they improve their economies and militaries. In between there is a class of outcome where a "momente juste" might allow direct revanchist action by the originating powers, against Taiwan and Ukraine, etc.

They did not magically become saints when they decided communism does not work as an economic system. They are rival great powers, cynical and reckless ones at that. So far, they haven't faced the slightest consequence themselves - whatever one of their proxies has suffered - for their hostile actions.

501 posted on 04/13/2003 7:41:13 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: dogbyte12
What you said. Amen.
502 posted on 04/13/2003 7:52:13 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Didn't FDR start the NRA? http://www.ggriffith.com/nra.htm)
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To: bart99
I haven't read the rest of this thread yet, apologies if someone else posted this, but I heard FOX report on this late Sat. night. In fact I think they read most if not all of this article and disussed it.

I had a bit too much wine *g* and I don't remember which talking head it was, but I know it was discussed.
503 posted on 04/13/2003 9:56:25 AM PDT by Anomaly in Illinois ((never forget !))
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To: Anomaly in Illinois
Little by little things are revealed that do more to explain Russia's position regarding military action in Iraq than the ridiculous explanations they offered. What concerns me now is what Russia and France will resort to when they are barred from any meaningful involvement in the formation of a new Iraqi government.

504 posted on 04/13/2003 10:31:56 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: RusIvan
BUMP
505 posted on 04/13/2003 10:59:43 AM PDT by jokar (In my experiance, there is no problem so deep, that a good ass kicking can't improve upon.)
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To: faithincowboys
wasn't he the father of terrorism?

Maybe modern terrorism, there were terrorists in the middle east going back to biblical times.

Lenin definitely used and endorsed terrorist methods. He wrote once, "In principle we have never rejected, and cannot reject terror. Terror is one of the forms of military action that may ..be perfectly suitable and even essential at a definite juncture in the battle, given a definite state of the troops and the existence of definite conditions."

But what bothers me most about the return of Lenin to Russia is that they are back on the track of Marxist imperialism: not content with fixing their own internal mess, they want to export that mess to the rest of the world. They would like to see little Saddam regimes running the whole world.

506 posted on 04/13/2003 11:34:10 AM PDT by EaglesUpForever (russia and france are hypocritical lying scum)
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To: JDGreen123
The list of assassination targets was evidently drawn up in November 2000, after the election but during the 36-day nightmare that followed, so the Russians could not have known who would be sworn in as the next President. Of course they could have had both George W. Bush and Algore on the list, or have updated it later. It would be interesting to know which high-ranking Americans were on the list.
507 posted on 04/13/2003 11:49:38 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MizSterious
"Turkey is not exactly high on our list of "good friends" either."

And we should show that by granting the Kurds a great, big state for themselves...including a large chunk of Iraq and Turkey!

508 posted on 04/13/2003 3:44:25 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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To: FairOpinion
"Putin made a very unwise choice by aligning himself with Iraq, France and Germany, instead of the US."

Don't fool yourself - Pukin has been in bed with Saddam at least as long as Chirac or Schroeder.

509 posted on 04/13/2003 4:17:56 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: TLBSHOW
And an info bump right back to you.
Thank you TLBSHOW.
510 posted on 04/13/2003 7:13:15 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Happy2BMe
"Don't fool yourself - Pukin has been in bed with Saddam at least as long as Chirac or Schroeder."
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Sure, but he had a chance to switch to the winning side (us) and didn't.

511 posted on 04/13/2003 10:07:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Rocko
It's no surprise that underemployed ex-Soviet apparitcheks would facillitate the survival of a man who models himself on Stalin. The Russians I can understand. But the French!? Perhaps the French were seduced by Saddam's extravegantly expensive palaces, which of course could still never compare to one small rooom at Versaillies. The resemblence to Louis XIV is striking and might have stirred Chirac's imagination with admiration that a ruler in the modern world could get away with such outrageous behaviour. Here you have the French strategy in a nutshell. Let them suffer under cruel dictatorships for another 100 years or so and they will become more like Frenchman than Americans.

My American friends, you will get some payback from the axis of weasels. A powerful argument is being made for forgiving Iraq's foreign debt. The weasels lose alot of money, and the world gets to see just how much they were involved in extenting the thralldom of 20 million people.

512 posted on 04/14/2003 3:16:34 AM PDT by moni kerr (Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way)
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To: Cindy
bttt keep up the good work its time to end commies world wide.........
513 posted on 04/14/2003 9:16:28 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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