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Australian PM Howard seeks to demote France in UN
The Age ^ | April 15 2003 | Louise Dodson

Posted on 04/14/2003 2:52:52 PM PDT by knighthawk

Prime Minister John Howard wants to reform the United Nations, saying the presence of France as a permanent member of the Security Council "distorts" the council.

He wants Japan, a South American country and India to be represented on the Security Council. France was there only because it was a global power at the end of World War II, he said.

Asking France or any other permanent member of the Security Council to voluntarily surrender their seat was "a major undertaking", he conceded.

His comments risk the ire of France before the first visit to Australia by President Jacques Chirac, who is due in the country in July.

France angered the war coalition nations with its strong opposition to a second UN resolution backing military action. Once the troops went into Iraq, President Chirac was a vocal opponent of the war.

Mr Howard offered a compromise, which he said would make the UN more representative of the modern world - three levels of Security Council members, the permanent members, the rotating members and a new group of permanent members that had no veto. It would be "a far better expression of world opinion", he said.

Despite his criticism of the Security Council, Mr Howard said the UN had a complementary role to play in the reconstruction of Iraq. But the interim authority would be run by the US with help from Britain, Australia and others.

Mr Howard cautioned against moving too fast to a new Iraqi-controlled government, because the model had to be right. He suggested a federal system similar to Australia's could be suitable for Iraq. "When you reflect upon the strong Kurdish component in the north, the Shiite preponderance in the south and the Sunni preponderance in the middle, perhaps there is some merit in a federal experiment in Iraq," Mr Howard told the 13th Commonwealth Law Conference in Melbourne.

He mentioned the possible model with "some trepidation" in case he was accused of trying to impose an alien Australian solution on another country.

"But when you have strong ethnic and regional differences, it is only a federal system of government that perhaps might provide the means of holding the nation together."

Government officials said Australia's views on the shape of a postwar Iraqi government had been made known to the US and included two main principles - that it be determined by the Iraqi people and that it should allow for representatives of the three main groups and some further tribal groupings.

The Kurds should have a strong degree of autonomy, the officials said.

Australia has sent a number of officials to be part of the transitional authority headed by US retired general Jay Garner. The Department of Foreign Affairs official is Andrew Goledzinowski, an assistant secretary who has worked as a career diplomat and as the chief of staff to Mary Robinson, the former UN high commissioner for refugees.

Opposition foreign affairs spokesman Kevin Rudd said Mr Howard should focus his intention on more immediate issues, such as the crisis at Baghdad's hospitals.

"The primary concern is to make sure the hospitals are no longer looted and medical supplies and services are being dispensed to the Iraqi people," Mr Rudd said.

Also yesterday, Mr Howard attacked "armchair generals" who criticised the conduct of the war, while it had run largely according to plan. "Of all the doomsday scenarios that were predicted, not one of them has been realised," he said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anistrlian; australia; australian; france; iraqifreedom; johnhoward; primeminister; unitednations; unreform
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1 posted on 04/14/2003 2:52:52 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Tom Jefferson; backhoe; Militiaman7; BARLF; timestax; imintrouble; cake_crumb; Brad's Gramma; ...
Prime Minister John Howard wants to reform the United Nations, saying the presence of France as a permanent member of the Security Council "distorts" the council

No more UN for US-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 04/14/2003 2:53:38 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Better yet, how about we just sh*tcan the UN entirely and move on...
3 posted on 04/14/2003 2:55:29 PM PDT by telebob
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To: knighthawk
As long as dictators have a say-so in what we do, it is ineffective.
4 posted on 04/14/2003 2:57:09 PM PDT by whadizit
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5 posted on 04/14/2003 2:58:51 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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6 posted on 04/14/2003 2:59:02 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: knighthawk
Go, PM Howard, go!

Demoting France is the right idea.

Along with Germany, Belgium, and Russia.

Aussies kick butt!
7 posted on 04/14/2003 3:13:00 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie
It's a great idea, but permanent seems to mean permanent. I wish we would just kick the whole bunch out of New York. Let someone else put up with their arrogance for the next 50 years.
8 posted on 04/14/2003 3:15:29 PM PDT by breakem
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To: knighthawk
France was there only because it was a global power at the end of World War II, he said.

The French needed only 40 something days to surrender to the Nazis, and then for the most part, played the role of collaborators rather than resisters during the four year occupation, which came to an end only as a result of the Americans and Brits. Where does the global power stuff come in?

9 posted on 04/14/2003 3:20:55 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: knighthawk
It doesn't get better than this.. LOL!! A big FU to France from Australia..!
10 posted on 04/14/2003 3:23:14 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: knighthawk
"France was there only because it was a global power at the end of World War II"

France was there only because of the good will of the people of America and Britain, who liberated her from the Nazis.

11 posted on 04/14/2003 3:24:37 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Labyrinthos
My thought too! Don't they get newspapers down there in Auzzie?
12 posted on 04/14/2003 3:24:55 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: knighthawk
Had they known that the French would ally themselves with the Nazis of the 21st century they would no doubt have arranged things differently.
13 posted on 04/14/2003 3:26:55 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: telebob
I'll drink to that :)
14 posted on 04/14/2003 3:27:33 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Another Marine Reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell)
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To: knighthawk
cool

God Bless america

15 posted on 04/14/2003 3:31:43 PM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: Savage Beast
France was there only because of the good will of the people of America and Britain, who liberated her from the Nazis.

BINGO!

16 posted on 04/14/2003 3:33:58 PM PDT by justshe (Become a monthly donor: Eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: Labyrinthos
The French Resistance during the Nazi occupation is always to be admired. Present and future generations will draw inspiration from these courageous, heroic people.

Sadly the voices we hear coming from France today are the voices of collaborators.

A frightened world longs to hear the voices of the French Resistance.

17 posted on 04/14/2003 3:34:10 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: knighthawk
Trouble is, a country can veto an attempt to deprive it of its permanent seat on the Security Council. I can't think of a reason why France would not veto the attempt.
18 posted on 04/14/2003 3:36:39 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: knighthawk
World power??? Not since 1900. Been losers ever since. Have had to depend on others to maintain their freedom.
19 posted on 04/14/2003 3:39:23 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: knighthawk
France was there only because it was a global power at the end of World War II, he said.

I agreed with the premise...but is Howard nuts, or what?

France was Germany's bitch at the end of the war...just like at the start.

Cheers.
20 posted on 04/14/2003 3:42:06 PM PDT by lodwick
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