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To: nanny
A Western Hemisphere union similar to the one in Europe will fail, NAFTA is proof of that. There are simply too many cultural differences between the US and Latin America. The only ones benefiting off of NAFTA are large corporations who move down to Mexico for the cheap labor, but quickly relocate elsewhere when they can find a better labor deal, like in China. That's the main reason it's done nothing to stop illegals from pouring in here, Mexicans' living standards haven't improved in the least as predicted.

Here's my prediction for what it's worth... if that sort of union future is currently in process of becoming reality, and I don't doubt it is, in the end it will have to be accomplished by force. The way it's being foisted upon us, the frog in the pot analogy, a little at a time, even that will eventually backfire when Americans find their living standards so eroded they can't live a middle-class life anymore. A Pat Buchanan style politician will emerge to stop and reverse it, at which the point the establishment will do everything they can to keep him out of power. Just look at what what they're trying to do to Tom Tancredo, who only suggests we should control the borders.

At present course, the future of the US has the potential to get very ugly.

57 posted on 04/16/2003 8:43:34 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
A Western Hemisphere union similar to the one in Europe will fail, NAFTA is proof of that. There are simply too many cultural differences between the US and Latin America. The only ones benefiting off of NAFTA are large corporations who move down to Mexico for the cheap labor, but quickly relocate elsewhere when they can find a better labor deal, like in China. That's the main reason it's done nothing to stop illegals from pouring in here, Mexicans' living standards haven't improved in the least as predicted.

Well, just because NAFTA is a failure mostly for America, but for the Mexican people also, hasn't caused our leaders to make any changes. In fact, there are going forward with the unsafe truckers, the 'professionals' being able to come here. So just because it is and will be a failure - will make little difference. It is a big success for the corporations and for the politicians they are funding.

Here's my prediction for what it's worth... if that sort of union future is currently in process of becoming reality, and I don't doubt it is, in the end it will have to be accomplished by force.

Part of it will, of course, but first they are going to lower the odds and try to break the middle income people and put us all in the situation we are just struggling to stay alive. Couple that with all the new so-called 'Homeland Security' which gives them inbelieveable powers over us. Also, that is part of my concern about the little news blips and posts here of having or needing foreign nationals in the military. An army with no allegiance or love for America or its people.

The way it's being foisted upon us, the frog in the pot analogy, a little at a time, even that will eventually backfire when Americans find their living standards so eroded they can't live a middle-class life anymore.

That is happening already. It is just that so many are living off their credit cards or home equity. Workers laid off because of NAFTA get to draw unemployment for, I believe, two years - so the impact is not immediately felt. Some because Mom has gone to work, Dad has a second job, serious cutbacks in standard of living, and they are managing to keep their head above water - but are not being able to achieve any sense of financial security.

When the truckers begin coming, another huge American industry will be negatively impacted. The politicians with their henchmen have been very good at neutralizing any sympathy or identity with so many workers that have lost their jobs - by their rants of UNION THUGS!! The attitude has been " so what, they are only UNION THUGS that are paid more than they are worth (I on the other hand am worth a lot)". I am not a union person, but to replace tax-paying, self-supporting, contributing union workers with illegals. Illegals whose contribution is only to the bottom line of corporations and politicians pocketbooks, increased insurance, increased medical care, increased law enforcement costs, increased strain on our infrastructure, increased educational expenses, increased burden to taxpayers, etc. is so destructive.

I hope I am here to listen to the reasoning when the Mexican 'professionals' are able to come here and take all the medical jobs, the legal jobs, teachers jobs. By that time, the illegal children will have their paid college education and will be some stiff competition for the ones who feel so secure right now. Couple that with H1B and it is a recipe for disaster.

A Pat Buchanan style politician will emerge to stop and reverse it,

From your lips to God's ear

at which the point the establishment will do everything they can to keep him out of power. Just look at what what they're trying to do to Tom Tancredo, who only suggests we should control the borders.

That is happening already - the reaction anytime Pat Buchanan is mentioned is just vicious. AS for Tancredo, you know they have probably looked up everything on him they can find - down to his kindergarten records and he must be the cleanest man in WAshington. They can't use his lack of Vietnam service against him - people who live in glass houses, and all that.

At present course, the future of the US has the potential to get very ugly.

I agree.

60 posted on 04/16/2003 10:20:32 AM PDT by nanny
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