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Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Differences' and Homosexuality Isn't 'Easy' in Newton
Massachusetts News ^ | April 17, 2003 | MassNews Staff

Posted on 04/17/2003 10:32:53 AM PDT by Remedy

It hasn't been easy teaching children about homosexuality in the Newton schools because many parents are not happy with the plan, a social worker told the attendees at one of the Fistgate sessions held this year at Tufts University.

"I work in the Newton public schools, and a lot of times it can be a very reactionary group, and it has not been easy at all," said Laura Perkins, who is a social worker in the schools.

Her session at Fistgate 2003 was about introducing six-year-olds to homosexual concepts. She shared books and sample lesson plans. The session was titled, "Developing Lessons that Help Young Students Understand Human Differences."

"What I do is to go into classrooms and teach kids about respect for human differences and to teach social skills lessons," she said, adding, "I have been asked to train new teachers in how to do some of these lessons. The new teachers are being trained to do this."

Several participants were from Brookline's public schools, including two first-grade co-teachers from the Devotion School and a 3rd-through-5th grade learning center teacher.

"It seems like the climate at the [Devotion] School is much more open than a lot of schools," commented Perkins, who then lamented the obstacles she faces in Newton.

She asked group members what teaching methods they currently use in their classrooms. One of the Devotion School teachers replied that she already does "a lot of stuff about similarities and differences . . . sort of getting [the children] to broaden their definition of what's smart or what's good or what's acceptable. And we talk a lot about teasing, and a lot about rules that people think there are, but that really aren't there. Like, people think there's a rule that boys can't like pink or wear pink or like to do certain things. That rule really doesn't exist, but people behave as if they do. So in this class, there isn't a rule, and we're not going to pretend that there's a rule."

Perkins said that children, who have language-based learning disabilities or who are mentally retarded, tend to think in such literal terms that they "really sometimes do have trouble grasping these ideas" that "a family can have two moms or two dads. So, sometimes it takes working with the parents as well to help them to talk to their children about it, so that they're hearing it in different places."

Get In Front of Parents Early On

Perkins recommended educators take a pro-active lead in setting ground rules with parents during the first open house of the school year:

"It's good just to state it right at open house. Talk about the kind of climate that you're trying to create in the classroom. Let parents know that you're going to be intervening if there's any teasing or name-calling, and that occasionally kids do use terms like 'retarded' or 'gay' as insults, and you will intervene and have a discussion about that if that happens."

Should parents want to know what a teacher is going to say in that situation, Perkins advised, "I would at that point tell them that I would define those words for the kids, and they're going to want to know how you define it.

"So the definition that I give to parents of an elementary school person, and this is what I use for the kids, is I say to kids that someone who is gay is someone, is a man who would be in a loving or romantic relationship with another man rather than a woman, and a lesbian is a woman who would be in a loving or a romantic relationship [with another woman], which she isn't necessarily in a relationship, but that is who she'd be in a relationship with."

Perkins conceded that she does not use the term "sexual orientation" with kids because, "It's too charged for the parents. I think if it's charged for the kids, it's really charged for the parents."

She actually does explain the difference between friendship and romance to children: "And parents will say to me, 'They're little kids, how do they know about romantic? What does that mean?' And I'll say, 'Well, I actually do explain that to kids.' You know, I say, 'Does that mean that if you're friends with a boy who's friends with a boy, does that mean he's gay?' And they'll say 'No.' And I'll say, 'That's right, it's different, that's a friendship. I'm not talking about friendship. I'm talking about moms and dads who've fallen in love, and then they want to live together and raise a family.'"

One method Perkins uses to explain the difference between friendship and romance to small children is fairy tales: "Again, with learning disabilities, you're dealing with sometimes kids who think very literally, so I'll say things like, 'In Cinderella, the story of Cinderella, the relationship between the Prince and Cinderella. . . that's a romantic relationship, or Sleeping Beauty and the prince.' And they get [that]. That seems to help them grasp that idea that it's not a friendship; it's a different concept."

When asked by one participant if she has ever had negative reactions from parents, Perkins agreed she has, and illustrated the ostracism some children face when their parents refuse to let them be indoctrinated: "I've had parents who've been kind about it and great about it, and I've had parents who've asked that their child be removed from any lesson in which we're going to deal with that.

"In fact, there's one parent who's asked that his child not have anything to do with me, so that child has had to be removed. I do social skills lessons in grades one and three, and that child had to be removed every time I came to do that in the classroom. We found something else for her to do, like go to the library and water the plants. I felt so bad. She was one of the kids who loved the lessons the most."

Perkins added, "There are always parents whose religion actually says that it [homosexuality] is a sin. I don't want to disrespect anyone's religion, and I'll tell parents that, but we do want every child to feel safe and comfortable in the school.

"If kids are getting teased and harassed, they're not going to be able to work. They're not going to be able to concentrate on their learning. So this is actually for the protection of people's learning so that they're able to learn best. So it really does go along with the goals of education, that every child has the right to be comfortable."

Perkins passed out several children's books for class participants to examine. She called Families are Different a "wonderful book" for kindergarten and first graders. However, "It does not show gay and lesbian families, so what I'll do is, I'll read the kids the book, then ask them if there are any kinds of families that are not represented. I actually have kids who have lesbian parents who do not say that their family wasn't represented, which is troubling to me. I question, are they getting the idea that I'm asking, or are they ashamed or are they uncomfortable? So then I'll sit and talk about families with two moms and two dads."

Good books for introducing the concept of "allies" include Oliver Button is a Sissy for first graders and Teammates, a story about African American baseball player Jackie Robinson, for third graders.

"When a child is being laughed at," said Perkins, "it's important to stop the class and say, 'Is there anybody who's going to be this child's ally? Something is going on; someone needs help. Who is going to show their support by being an ally?'

"I've had a whole class practically dissolve in laughter in front of me because I used the word 'gay'. And when that happens you have a choice: Should you stop or should you just go on and ignore the issues or stop and discuss it? And I stop and discuss it and ask them why they're laughing. And they'll really try to avoid the subject, but then usually someone will spill the beans, and then I'll go into the definition, and why it's hurtful to laugh about it."

Another resource Perkins recommends for first graders is Zinnia and Dot, a "conflict resolution" story about two mother hens who fight over a single egg after a weasel steals the others in their nests. When the chick hatches, the hens realize that it does not matter who originally laid the egg. The story reads, "Never before was a baby chick so loved, growing up with not one, but two mother hens." When Perkins finishes reading the story, she asks children, "Does this look like a happy family?" When the kids answer "Yes," Perkins explains, "This story is about a hen family, but in some human families there are two moms or two dads."

Perkins admitted that My Two Uncles, the story of a girl who does not understand the conflict her grandfather has with his gay son (the girl's uncle) and his male sex partner, may be too sophisticated for first and second graders because of its explicit definitions of "gay" and "lesbian," but "I have great discussions in third grade with kids about it." She noted that one of her former principals asked her not to use the book because of parents' negative reactions.

Chicken Sunday, for grades 3 through 5, talks about the Holocaust and shows a drawing of a man with a concentration camp tattoo on his arm. Perkins said she uses the story to talk to children about groups of people who were persecuted in Germany during World War II, "and that one of the groups was gays and lesbians, and I'll define it for them, and [talk] about how it seems like all that persecution was about fear of differences and about not understanding people who are different, and that is one of the reasons we are emphasizing understanding differences."

Perkins, who identified herself as "straight" during the session, concluded, "I think it's more the parents who should go to a psychiatrist to become comfortable with who their child is."


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Comment #141 Removed by Moderator

To: madg
"In other words, this is not part of the schools' curricula."

Sure it is, madg. As part of the curriculum, teachers bring in homosexual groups into their classrooms as "guest speakers." Instructional time is set aside for this. And as we've heard on the tape, homosexually explicit discussions can then take place with kids as young as middle school age. Right in their public school classroom. The SpeakOut speaker can be heard admitting that it was a middle school 7th grade class that he was speaking to (he specifically mentions 12 year olds).

And GLSEN has much to do with public school curriculums, including sex education.


"Your continued reliance on the "Forty-five minutes of propaganda" tape is unremarkable."

And your extreme reluctance to consider and discuss the actual words of the speaker from SpeakOut, admitting that discussions of a prurient nature (lead by homosexuals) take place in public school classrooms, is noted.

142 posted on 04/24/2003 12:17:14 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
indexing...
144 posted on 04/28/2003 12:38:02 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Lancey Howard
Everyone should just give up debating madg. It is a liberal and we all know that they are sooo much smarter than us stupid redneck conservatives.

On the question of perversion/homosexuality, I will rely on God. Remember what He did to two towns a long time ago? I think Lott asked the sames questions you did Lancey, "Have you no decency?"

In a word, no.

Give up. It will spend all day trying to prove how stupid everyone on FR is.
145 posted on 04/28/2003 12:57:17 PM PDT by dnandell ("you've heard of plato, aristotle, socretes?" "yes" "morons")
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To: Remedy
BUMP
146 posted on 05/01/2003 6:04:38 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: GrandMoM
BUMP!
147 posted on 05/02/2003 12:56:37 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Scothia
That is a remarkable story. There is a demonic agenda at work here, and the goal is to win the hearts and minds of the next generation.
148 posted on 05/02/2003 1:02:24 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Remedy
This is great--really has the potential to reduce class size.
149 posted on 05/02/2003 2:17:34 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Remedy
Kindergarteners???????

Sick, sick, sick!!!!!!!
150 posted on 05/02/2003 2:19:43 PM PDT by k2blader (Reason is our soul's left hand, Faith her right. - John Donne)
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To: Zack Nguyen
That is a remarkable story. There is a demonic agenda at work here, and the goal is to win the hearts and minds of the next generation.

If I had younger children today, I would NEVER allow them to see the inside of a state-run school. After the dismal experience with my son, I homeschooled my daughter until junior high, then put her in a Christian private school. She is finishing up her junior year at the local public high school. However, before I let her attend there I made darn sure that A) she was strong enough to withstand the assault on her psyche, B) I know what she's studying by insinuating myself into her school life (served two years on the parent-teacher council, for example, to keep an eye on them); and C) the loopy feminist principal was out and a conservative who supports parents and a modicum of discipline was hired.

No matter what it costs, get your little children out of the government, soul-killing schools. To do anything less is simply negligent and hurtful to children!

151 posted on 05/02/2003 2:30:04 PM PDT by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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To: Scothia
BIG BUMP!!!!!!!
152 posted on 05/02/2003 3:00:09 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy; Scothia
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153 posted on 05/02/2003 5:54:04 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter
Bump
154 posted on 05/04/2003 8:15:14 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter
Ping (#134)
155 posted on 05/04/2003 5:41:16 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
Thanks for the ping. I've updated the database with the links from post 134.
156 posted on 05/05/2003 12:00:08 AM PDT by scripter
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To: scripter
You're welcome bump!
157 posted on 05/05/2003 7:30:16 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
BTTT...
158 posted on 05/07/2003 8:23:08 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a monthly donor!)
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To: netmilsmom
It's not just you. They've become so brazen that they publicly admit that this is not education, but indoctrination. That really is scary.

From the article: "When asked by one participant if she has ever had negative reactions from parents, Perkins agreed she has, and illustrated the ostracism some children face when their parents refuse to let them be indoctrinated.... So, in order to convince those parents that their children need to get with the mind-control program, this Perkins person played an "ostracism" card. Both scary and sickening.

159 posted on 05/07/2003 8:32:16 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Free Miguel)
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To: Scothia
What's more troubling than these so-called "educators" and their indoctrination to embrace perversion is the parents who do nothing at all in response.
160 posted on 05/07/2003 8:40:27 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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