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To: sarcasm; dinodino; Mother Abigail; CathyRyan; per loin; Dog Gone; Petronski; riri; EternalHope; ...
I wonder if Peking has the same kind of plumbing as Hong Kong.
12 posted on 04/18/2003 4:52:04 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides; CathyRyan; blam; EternalHope; Dog Gone; per loin; Domestic Church
"I wonder if Peking has the same kind of plumbing as Hong Kong."

I suspect the whole urban high rise world has the same problem --- except possibly for the presence / absence of floor drains.

I read a report yesterday on the Hong Kong Health Department SARS site about the Amoy Gardens outbreak that talked in great detail about "waste stacks" [which in those buildings go straight down] and floor drains [which are in every bathroom which have traps that tend to dry out if no effort is made to pour in a little water every few days -- sinks toilets and showers tend to get filled often enough through normal usage patterns.] I don't have the URL and am on a slower than slow dial up. Look for it uner "news" under the main site.

The picture painted was fairly clear. Human waste failing several stories would create a nasty aerosol that could easily pass through the untended [empty] floor drain traps and onto bathroom floors and elsewhere in these apartments.

The alpha case for the cluster apparently was a visitor who had severe intestinal symptonsfrom his SARS infection. Viral loads in his waste -- who knows, but clearly enough to be transmissable. The initial outbreak of Amoy Gardens infections tended to cluster in vertical planes with apartments 7 and 8 on each floor being the hot spots for infection. From there the infections spread out into the rest of the complex with about a three day lag.

I am not a plumber, but the message is that any dry trap could be serious problem and any dry trap in a high rise is a problem waiting to happen. If not from SARS, then from whatever disease someone on the floor above has cooking in their intestinal tract.

34 posted on 04/18/2003 9:40:24 AM PDT by R W Reactionairy
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