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Ritalin Debate: Some Experts Doubt Existence of ADHD
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| April 18, 2003
| Patrick Goodenough
Posted on 04/18/2003 12:38:09 PM PDT by FreeRadical
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To: FreeRadical
Count me in among the concerned. Kids being force-fed something an adult could spend years in jail for unlawfully possessing... there is something wrong with this picture, and it's not a healthy sign.
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:42:24 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(I predict hysteria at the UN)
To: FreeRadical
Well, I was a 'hyperactive' kid, inattentive, unruly, non-compliant, etc... and I never had to take any pharmaceuticals to change my behavior - and yet, now I am a responsible, well-adjusted adult... ;0)
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:43:54 PM PDT
by
Chad Fairbanks
(Some days, it's just not worth gnawing through the straps...)
To: FreeRadical
I like Red Foremans cure for ADHD "A foot up your ass!!!"
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:45:30 PM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
To: FreeRadical
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:50:38 PM PDT
by
FreeRadical
(Buy Kids Books & Guns. Help them love liberty & hate the nanny state.)
To: FreeRadical
I work with kids at 45 different school locations and I can tell you .. the number of kids that are medicated is astounding.. mainly boys. There are so many children that have a terrible time controlling behavior.. When we address behavioral issues with some of the parents .. they tend to say in the presence of their children, that they can't help it.. that either they are on new meds.. they forgot their meds or we should excuse their poor behavior because they are ADHD and that it's part of their 'diagnosis'.. kids are given a pass..
One additional thing, if these kids are diagnosed as ADHD ..they are classified as special needs.. the schools received additional funding for special needs kids and it is in the best interest of the schools to have special needs kids identified.
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:55:42 PM PDT
by
Zipporah
To: FreeRadical
Sometimes where parents made changes in the way they were doing things, the symptoms would go away. DUH! Parents today are just weenies - trying to "befriend" their darlings and afraid to be parents!
My son was hyper growing up. He was dealt with consistantly and evenly. When he got "wound up" I made sure he did a few laps up and down our street to burn off his excess energy and it always worked.
He also learned the value of discipline. He's a fine adult today and a great parent.
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:56:07 PM PDT
by
Humidston
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
To: Zipporah
What percentage of the drugged kids are from single-parent homes?
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:57:46 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: FreeRadical
I have ADD. I know it exists.
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:59:37 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(c) Entertaining beautiful women since 1972 ! :^)
To: FreeRadical
What were we talking about?
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posted on
04/18/2003 12:59:53 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(c) Entertaining beautiful women since 1972 ! :^)
To: FreeRadical
According to Baughman, 500,000 children were diagnosed ADHD in 1985 and between 5 and 7 million were today. That many diagnoses in one day? Good grief!
To: bvw
I would say that the majority of medicated kids are from single parent homes. Also, from families that are at-risk.. either being low income or single parent.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:02:06 PM PDT
by
Zipporah
To: Lazamataz
Yes it does exist.
While I'm sure that the drugs are overused as behavioral restraints, there is an actual neurological problem that is ADHD, that is very painful for the sufferers.
The few instances where it is appropriate and useful should not be disparaged.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:04:46 PM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(God bless our soldiers with swift victory...)
To: Judith Anne
One clue ADD does exist is this: To those who do not suffer from ADD, ritalin acts like a recreational stimulant, somewhat like methamphetamines.
However, to a person such as myself, I get NO recreational drug effect from ritalin. All that happens is I can concentrate better.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:07:12 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(c) Entertaining beautiful women since 1972 ! :^)
To: Zipporah
I'm curious to know how many cases of ADD/ADHD are diagnosed at a Military School. hmmmm?
To: HEY4QDEMS
HEY4QDEMSEverybody's got a cool screen name but me. :o(
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:11:19 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(c) Entertaining beautiful women since 1972 ! :^)
To: Lazamataz
How does your belief that you have some condition or another provide proof that it exists?
To: FreeRadical
My stepson has been diagnosed with ADHD. One interesting bit of info: Once something has his attention, he only focuses on that one thing...everything else is blocked-out completely.
I watched as he walked home from the bus stop after school, and saw that a fly captured his attention...he followed it out into oncoming traffic trying to swat at it. That's just one danger of this "disorder". This helped us decide, with the advice of his doctor, that medications pose the lesser risk.
Now, I'm not an advocate for medicating kids to make life easier on teachers or parents. But in my boy's (Bughunter)case, medications are working--for him.
rook
To: Judith Anne
The few instances where it is appropriate and useful should not be disparaged. The problem is that for some folks (such as will soon be crowding this thread), ADD is primarily an ideological issue. As such, its reality must be denied or minimized. We see above, and will see below, all sorts of calls for punishment and discipline instead of medication. For whatever reason, these same folks tend to end up on the public education-bashing threads -- there's a link of some sort.
The fact is, I know several kids who are on medication because they need it. It helps them to function.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:16:25 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: US admirer
How does your belief that you have some condition or another provide proof that it exists?It is anecdotal evidence of an effect observed by independant researchers performing double-blind experiments.
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posted on
04/18/2003 1:16:54 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(c) Entertaining beautiful women since 1972 ! :^)
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