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Spin on looting depends on whether it's at home or away(grrrr)
http://www.kansascity.com/ ^ | Fri, Apr. 18, 2003 | LEWIS W. DIUGUID

Posted on 04/20/2003 7:49:46 PM PDT by chasio649

The looting in Iraq that the U.S.-led war spawned has a familiar look. It appears an awful lot like Los Angeles and other major American cities after the first verdicts in the police beating of Rodney King 11 years ago this month.

In Iraq, people have broken into warehouses, government buildings, shops and homes to take everything they could carry. That included TVs, computers, tools, furniture, toilets, air conditioners, plants, refrigerators, light bulbs, ceiling fans, food and money.

Priceless antiquities in museums and books in libraries in the birthplace of civilization have been stolen. The losses are among the high, needless price humanity pays for war.

But what also is curious is such acts were labeled lawlessness after the April 29, 1992, acquittals of four white Los Angeles police officers in the infamous videotaped beating of King in 1991. Police and troops helped restore order in Los Angeles and numerous cities.

In the last month, U.S. troops and relentless bombings destroyed order in Iraq, leading to the looting and lawlessness in that nation. But U.S. officials have colored what took place in Iraq differently from what occurred in U.S. cities.

In Iraq, officials said the looting was driven by pent-up hatred of ousted President Saddam Hussein as well as a craving of the impoverished people to take anything from the regime that had neglected their needs. But spin doctors could easily have blamed years of abusive police treatment of minorities and the government for not meeting people's needs for the disorder in 1992.

A report after the unrest at home said police had no plan to handle any fallout from the first verdicts in the King beatings. The Bush administration also failed to anticipate the lawlessness that the war created in Iraq.

Administration officials also are fumbling to develop a plan for a lasting peace.

The Vietnam War model of destroying a village to save it is still unacceptable. Reconstruction in Iraq must undo 12 years of sanctions and a month of death, destruction and looting that the U.S.-led war has caused.

Los Angeles and other cities haven't fully recovered from the '92 riots. Racial tension, joblessness, underemployment, deficient schools, crime and poverty remain crushing problems in cities nationwide.

Iraq is in horrible shape, too. War casualties have caused a massive brain drain.

The war also has crushed Iraq's infrastructure. A lot of what was left has been looted. Remaking this country into an enviable jewel of Middle Eastern democracy won't be easy.

Another area of need is Afghanistan. The U.S. war against terrorism there did not end the fighting and unrest.

Both wars, however, did create global expectations that America's influence would result in just, democratic governments in Iraq and Afghanistan and a lasting peace and prosperity for the Middle East. However, people of color have yet to enjoy those lofty ideals at home.

But that shouldn't stop Afghans and Iraqis from demanding what minorities in America have yet to receive. They should insist on good housing.

Factories and offices should be built so people can work in communities where they live. They should demand job security, universal health care and a living wage.

Afghans and Iraqis need quality schools, topflight teachers for their children and an affordable college education. That would pull those nations out of bombed-out, vacant lot conditions like those in many cities in America and ensure that the next generation has a productive future.

The Afghan and Iraqi people need representative governments free from the polluting influences of racism, corruption and money. They need elected officials who will respond to the people.

These are all of the things that Afghanistan and Iraq need to replace the lawlessness, despair and looting. But they also are what minorities in cities like Los Angeles and Kansas City are still waiting for at home.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bs; ccrm; iraq; iraqifreedom; lariots; looting; war
Let me see if my memory serves me....in LA, they were looting privately owned businesses for new sneakers and boomboxes...don't remember looting of government offices ( i could be wrong on this) so the rationale is that the Iraqis looted the oppressive government buildings and south central residents looted the evil regime of Foot Locker and the Korean food merchants of death.
1 posted on 04/20/2003 7:49:46 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: chasio649
And...US Troops were passing out AK-47s to complete strangers without background checks or a fat tax stamp to protect private homes and business....and allow open carry of full auto weapons...
Hows that grab ya?
2 posted on 04/20/2003 7:55:12 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: chasio649
This writer can't tell the difference between a community where the police are at worst somewhat corrupt and unfair to minorities, and will be a little too rough with someone resisting arrest, and a regime that puts people in the woodchipper or cuts their tongues out for the odd offhand comment. C'mon guys. There "oppression", and then there's oppression.
3 posted on 04/20/2003 7:59:32 PM PDT by caspera
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To: mhking
Ping!
4 posted on 04/20/2003 8:00:14 PM PDT by Hobsonphile (Human nature can't be wished away by utopian dreams.)
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To: chasio649
In Iraq the poorer class have looted everything. Government buildings, homes of the ruling elite, schools, hosptials, museums and libraries, while our soldeirs stood by and watched. As a result the middle class are becoming resentful and feel humiliated that the world is watching this. They can't do anything much about it, most of them are just probably white colar workers.

I think the looting has been as traumatic and destructive as the war and I don't think it was anticipated. Now we have to respond to it and fix things up. It is our job. There is no media plot to make Bush look bad. The looting was just terrible and we have to face it and not blame somebody else.

5 posted on 04/20/2003 8:06:46 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: chasio649
On one level, the author of this article is correct- what has happened in Iraq is a breakdown of order which has resulted in a period of lawlessness. My intent is not to "spin" it otherwise. It is, however, supremely doubtful that the Coalition forces could've done anything to prevent this result. Further, it has been eleven days since the fall of Baghdad- it seems entirely premature to me to be attacking the Administration regarding a restoration effort that has just begun.

This author's comparisons to the race riots in 1992, however, severely strain credibility:

But spin doctors could easily have blamed years of abusive police treatment of minorities

Where are the facts to back up this assertion? I don't mean to argue that police departments have never been touched by bigotry and corruption, but the above hypothesis is still very much disputed.

and the government for not meeting people's needs for the disorder in 1992.

Liberal brain rot. People are not the wards of the state.

Reconstruction in Iraq must undo 12 years of sanctions and a month of death, destruction and looting that the U.S.-led war has caused.

Did the author deliberately leave out the three decades of Hussein's brutal rule, Hussein's flagrant disregard for United Nations resolutions, etc.? I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but...

Racial tension, joblessness, underemployment, deficient schools, crime and poverty remain crushing problems in cities nationwide.

How, precisely, these very real issues compare to the suffering of a people living under a tyrant is something the author never explains. As for how he proposes to solve the above urban problems, well, I get into that below.

Remaking this country into an enviable jewel of Middle Eastern democracy won't be easy.

Who has argued that it will be easy?

They should demand job security, universal health care and a living wage.

All policies that have met with unmitigated disaster wherever they've been tried. Though I suppose part of me would be quite amused to see this author try to explain to the Iraqis, years from now, why they must now wait in line for heart surgery.

There's no thinking here- just the usual Democratic/Socialist/Communist talking points.

6 posted on 04/20/2003 8:34:54 PM PDT by Hobsonphile (Human nature can't be wished away by utopian dreams.)
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To: Theresa
Why? Why do WE have to respond to it and fix it up? How do we know that the "poorer class has looted everything"? and how do you know that the middle class FEELS (now there's a clue) humiliated?

Why is this OUR job? How do you know it is NOT a media plot...because surely we can respond with dozens if not HUNDREDS of examples where the media has attempted to make our president "look bad."

Finally, why do "we have to face it and fix it up?" I didn't loot anything, don't condone it...and believe that STEALING is STEALING, be it Baghdad or Lala Land. So, this was a rhetorical pause to consider the true stupidity of taking responsibility for the actions of the residents of another country whom we have just liberated. ESPECIALLY since this cost the blood of our own nation's young men and women....right?

However, if my seven year old was incarcerated for five years for refusing to fight for Saddamn....my sister had been raped and dismembered on the whim of the ruler's sicko son....my father had been fed to hungry pit bulls for suggesting an alternative to violence..... I might feel like smashing the china from the royal palace as well. In fact, perhaps it is a totally healthy outlet for totally natural feelings of hostility and anger....which, according to our own plethora of therapists could be better handled in a "more healthy" way. But, we should be patient. It takes a while to have a nation realize that they can jog around the parade grounds instead of tear the seats down.... or swim laps in the royal pool instead of relieving one's self in it.... these realizations will come in a few more weeks. In the meantime, if insurance companies regard looting at a time of war.... I believe that most likely the world's boldest and brightest addressed the possibility prior to this leadership realignment and considered that the benefits far outweighed material loss.
7 posted on 04/20/2003 9:02:30 PM PDT by snickeroon
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To: chasio649
Oh my Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas any more...
8 posted on 04/20/2003 9:13:29 PM PDT by tubebender (?)
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