Agitprop in action? [Was: Best treatment of SARS available- Photo-oxidation]

Raymond Kwong SARS update | 4/21/03 | Watchman123

[Watchman123]

There are 2 different procedures. One is photo-therapy, the other is photodynamic therapy. I will try to remember to post some details about the protocals.In phototherapy, blood is drawn & exposed to UV light & put back in body via IV drip. It activates the blood & enhance its fighting power plus destroy the pathogens, whatever there are in the blood.

In Dr. Morales, Jr. Photodynamic therapy, they inject a natural dye into the body(not a drug such as in some hospitals like John Hopkins), the cells takes it in. you follow with expoasure to UV light , the good cells remain intact & undisturbed, the bad cells & viruses are destroyed. They have been doing this for years with at most minumial side effects in a small number of patients.

[Watchman123]

I am sorry that you sincerely missed the mark. People in many countries have been drinking ozone for decades. what are you talking about. you have been indoctrinated by the medically0correct & confused textbooks. they don't even know what they are talking about. Sir, if Ozone is harmful, you think the environmentalists will allow swimming pools to use ozone to disinfect the water? Have you not read in some bottled water, the fine print says, purified by Ozone?

You wrote,"if you drink it most of the ozone will be consumed chemically reacting with the cells in your body in a very bad way, carcinogenically if I am not mistaken. I would also point out that ozone does not clean the air. In fact, it is considered an air pollutant, and is toxic to breath, with noticeable negative side-effects in relatively small dosages". Ozone is not carcinogenic! You are unfortunately mistaken. You hear these guys reporting weather, they sincerely mistook Ozone as some pollutant! Nothing can be farther from the truth! Ozone attacks the pollutants in the air, smog...I know chemists who have studied Ozone & they say it's totally safe! With due respect, just because someone has a chemistry degree, doesn't mean they got all chemistry facts correct. Just because someone has a Ph.D. in biology does not mean he is right on evolution. In fact, most are so messed up by the misleading theories in science textbooks. examples abound. I do not fault you. That's probably what you were taught.

[Orange1998]

UV light will produce Ozone in the air which displaces Oxygen. Be careful.

[Watchman123]

The Hi tech Ozone generator I got years ago has the ozone going through charcoal, which turns ozone back into oxygen. Don't worry.

[Orange1998]

Some install the UV in the A/C return air innocently reducing the amount of Oxygen in the house.

[tortoise]

People in many countries have been drinking ozone for decades.

People in many countries have been smoking for decades. Damage from something like ozone is slow and cumulative unless you get a fat dose all at once where the toxic effects would be obvious.

Sir, if Ozone is harmful, you think the environmentalists will allow swimming pools to use ozone to disinfect the water? Have you not read in some bottled water, the fine print says, purified by Ozone?

Well duh. Ozone is extremely reactive and disappears very quickly. The reason it is used to sterilize water is that 1) it isn't nearly as obnoxious as chlorine, and 2) when it reacts with organic material, it doesn't leave unpleasant compounds behind. Ozone is just as bad for you as chlorine (and arguably worse in some ways). But unlike chlorine, ozone rapidly breaks down into harmless odorless components (namely diatomic oxygen). Hell, I use an ozone purifier for water, but the ozone doesn't linger in the water very long at all. In fact, ozone is almost ideal for sterilizing water: it is toxic to essentially all pathogens and living cells, and it breaks down very quickly into regular harmless oxygen.

Incidentally, I have seen cases of ozone poisoning. If you choose to ignore the vast volumes of chemical safety data on ozone, then you do so at your own risk.

[Watchman123]

never mind. i have no desire to argue with you or anyone. we will have to agree to disagree. this is america. i'd just say this, there is ample evidence that id you drink too much water, you will die. If you eat too much of anything, you will die. nuff said.

[Admin Moderator]

Yada Yada. You just blew your credibility.

I know, "F*ck the establishment"

Grow up. The environment is what it is. FRee Republic is anonymous for a reason. I'm closer to the screwed up process than you realize.

Now demonstrate some efficacy and some discipline in ways your peers and the 'establishment' will recognize or go away.

OR, invest your time and effort in changing the system.

My final post to you.\

p.s. it costs more than $400 million from target to approval. It looks to me like he was trying to invest time and effort into changing the system. Please see here.

[Blueflag]

Not sure why you sent me this post, but I'll reply. I did try to follow the tread, but remain unconvinced.

In my opinion, Watchman123 was promoting either pseudoscience or a small part of an actual scientific process. Watchman did not have his/her science right as written, and was basically agitating with quasi-facts.

If this person is working to change the system, they need better facts, reasons and methods. Passion and fervor are good. But you need facts. His/er arguments seemed neither valid nor sound.

Thanks for helping make FR a great place.

[fintek]

Your article on Basil Earle Wainwright, if anyone knows his address or whereabouts please post on this site, as he is wanted for numerous crimes and is a fugitive from justice in several countries. His alleged ideas of being a Nobel Prize nominee, means that one of his African partners nominated him in 1998. Anyone can nominate anyone. This man is dangerous to any potential patient including the medical community and should be apprehended before he kills anyone else by treating patients with a process that only qualified physicians should undertake. Basil Wainwright alias Dr. Richard Stone is a convicted criminal in the USA and the UK. Please be warned.

[fintek]

Your article on Basil Earle Wainwright, if anyone knows his address or whereabouts please post on this site, as he is wanted for numerous crimes and is a fugitive from justice in several countries. His alleged ideas of being a Nobel Prize nominee, means that one of his African partners nominated him in 1998. Anyone can nominate anyone. This man is dangerous to any potential patient including the medical community and should be apprehended before he kills anyone else by treating patients with a process that only qualified physicians should undertake. Basil Wainwright alias Dr. Richard Stone is a convicted criminal in the USA and the UK. Please be warned.

[Meha]

I know for a fact what it does, myself and my husband just returned from Mexico, he was diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer, he did take the Photoluminescence therapy along with quinoxide and several others, he just recieved his ct scan and blood work from his American Dr. and low and behold his cancer markers have dropped by over 800 points and the ct scan said they couldn't define a tumor in his pancreas. It made a believer out of me.Maybe you should find out the facts.