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"Postindustrial social democrat" Gary Hart thinking about running for president again
LA Weekly via yahoo.com news ^ | April 17, 2003 | Marc Cooper

Posted on 04/22/2003 3:17:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

After listening to a couple of his major addresses, and conducting a lengthy, wide-ranging interview with him, I would say Gary Hart poses a unique challenge to American political conventional wisdom. And there seems little doubt that if he were to make a serious run, and if he got sufficient attention, he could - at a minimum - shake up the entire process. "I have a rather archaic view of history," he says during our talk. "You ought to qualify to run for the presidency before you run, not try to figure it out after you get elected - like in the movie The Candidate, where Robert Redford asks at the end, 'What do we do now?'"

That's easy, of course, to say if you have published a dozen books, established yourself as a Jeffersonian scholar and just got your Ph.D. in politics - as Hart did two years ago, from Oxford no less. But what is striking about Hart is precisely his seriousness in pondering the role and future of America way beyond the narrow, Rove-like calculations of a political operative. He proudly boasts of "writing every word" of the thick, major policy papers he presented over the last few months. And anyone who knows him wouldn't doubt the boast for a moment.

Nor is Hart's political posture so easily pigeonholed into the limited spaces that now make up modern American politics. Perhaps the best definition comes by way of one of his former advisers, who says, "Gary is basically a postindustrial social democrat." In Europe that might be easy to grasp. But what does it mean in American terms?

"I can boil all this down into two themes," Hart answers. "First is to restore the ideal of the republic. The second is to shift American culture from consumption and spending to investment and saving. The bumper-sticker version might be: 'We must earn our rights by performance of our duties.'"

That's one helluva wonkish slogan to run on. But Hart is deadly serious about it. He's written a trilogy of weighty books on the "restoration of the republic," and his novel I, Che Guevara, written a handful of years ago under the pen name John Blackthorn, envisions a Jeffersonian revolution in post-Castro Cuba. He now argues for a renegotiation of the social contract in which the American people would take on more civic duties in exchange for improved physical, social, economic and environmental security. It's a vision, he says, that America has been able to glean only fleetingly three times in the last half-century. "There was that moment when we were asked not what our country can do for us but what we can do for our country," Hart says. "And that changed my whole generation. Then there was Clinton's brief, too brief, mention of an AmeriCorps." The third incident, which Hart describes as a "massive missed opportunity," was a week after September 11, when George W. Bush said, "We are all in this together."

The economic and social rights won through blood and sacrifice over the last two centuries have made America a "hugely" better place, says Hart. "But we have lost the other side of the coin," he adds. "Participation, responsibility and ownership."

On that basis, he sketches out a political program that is no less than a hybrid of socially progressive ideas and small-c conservatism: national health care, children's and citizens' savings accounts, tighter regulation of markets and corporations, a national energy strategy, environmentalism, and radical campaign-finance reform. In turn, Americans might be asked to pay a consumption tax, he says, participate in community service and learn to scale down their lifestyles to something more compatible with finite resources.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; earnrights; progressive
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Democrats are scary.
1 posted on 04/22/2003 3:17:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"On that basis, he sketches out a political program that is no less than a hybrid of socially progressive ideas and small-c conservatism: national health care, children's and citizens' savings accounts, tighter regulation of markets and corporations, a national energy strategy, environmentalism, and radical campaign-finance reform. In turn, Americans might be asked to pay a consumption tax, he says, participate in community service and learn to scale down their lifestyles to something more compatible with finite resources."

He wants the USA to become just like the Euro-Trash nations.
Who would have ever guessed.


2 posted on 04/22/2003 3:24:29 AM PDT by MikeAtTheShore
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***'We must earn our rights by performance of our duties.'" ***

I can see huge billboards now.

3 posted on 04/22/2003 3:27:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A post industrial social democrat is a code word for a collectivist Commie. Say what what you will about Gary Hartpence at least he has the guts to say aloud what the other Democrats believe in but find it impolitic to say in public.
4 posted on 04/22/2003 3:30:26 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I pulled that quote out to discuss it also, before I read your comment. Hell, the guy went to Oxford for a Ph.D. to be brainwashed that Jefferson would have supported ANY of that crap?

Hart's era was when I began to despise Democrats as just plain dishonorable--say one thing, lie about another, and then draw a totally unwarranted connection between the two.

He can't even be honest enough to say: this is my socialist program. It is a vast change from what America stands for, but I think it's best. The reason is because people who only read or hear the introductions will really flock to him.

5 posted on 04/22/2003 3:42:33 AM PDT by jammer
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And the media calls it "wonkish."

I guess they believe him to be "brillant" as they do Bill Clinton.

6 posted on 04/22/2003 3:43:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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..learn to scale down their lifestyles to something more compatible with finite resources

Anyone for Jimmy Carter's malaise? If this one is emphasized, he won't go far--that speech was the beginning of the end for Jimmy and won't sell today.

7 posted on 04/22/2003 3:44:55 AM PDT by jammer
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I don't think Americans are ready to accept feeling guilty about their creature comforts. Its hard to selling living like a monk in tough times.
8 posted on 04/22/2003 3:46:17 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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We must earn our rights by performance of our duties

Gee, and all this time I thought we were endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. Silly me.

9 posted on 04/22/2003 3:46:19 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Yup. The Leftist mindset believes our rights are a great favor from Big Brother. There you have the sine qua non of the Hart worldview.
10 posted on 04/22/2003 3:47:37 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Correct. And your description above is on-target.
11 posted on 04/22/2003 3:48:43 AM PDT by jammer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"First is to restore the ideal of the republic.

--- I got no beef with that. That's what FR is here for. But it's the dems who are digging faster on this hole we are in.

'We must earn our rights by performance of our duties.'"

"Rights" are not "earned" - they are inalienable, remember?
I'm all for doing our duty, but our duty doesn't include all the welfare-state crapola you have foisted upon us.
It's a tough choice, but I'm still another FREEPER for AL.
(That's SHARPTON, not Gore or Yankovic)

12 posted on 04/22/2003 3:48:53 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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A lot of Americans just gave their lives to "earn" Iraq's freedom. I hope they will honor that sacrifice by embracing it.
13 posted on 04/22/2003 3:50:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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"...I can see huge billboards now...."

Hartpence has always expected his "animal magnetism" to spontaneously sprout a cult of personality. What a wind bag.

I especially liked the "restore the ideal of the republic" line. When I read that I thought, is he proposing a return to Federalism, whereby the federal government returns the power it has usurped to the states and the people? Is he calling for a return to Constitutionally limited government?

Hardly, his platform is nothing more than more federal government domination of the economy and culture, underpinned by obligatory volunteerism to support the "Ideals of our Great Leader, Saddam, er, I mean Hartpence."

If this guy wasn't so full of himself he would be funny, kind of our own Baghdad Bob. Unfortunately, he is a ego-centric putz and he most definitely is not funny.
14 posted on 04/22/2003 3:57:46 AM PDT by irish_links
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Unfortunately, he is a ego-centric putz and he most definitely is not funny.

A regular Jim Jones.

15 posted on 04/22/2003 4:04:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Izzy Dunne
(That's SHARPTON, not Gore or Yankovic)

I'll vote for Weird Al Yankovic before I vote for Gary "Monkey Business" Hartpence.

Regards,

16 posted on 04/22/2003 4:04:42 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oh the ego of a 'has been' politician, they think they are so important that the world can not exist without them.
17 posted on 04/22/2003 4:06:54 AM PDT by gulfcoast6 (Three rusty nails and a Cross, all for you and me.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Doesn't Hart always seem angry, unhappy, nasty, mean? A self-righteous, moralistic fascist. He does to me.
18 posted on 04/22/2003 4:16:58 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The second is to shift American culture from consumption and spending to investment and saving.

What? This guy's got a button he can push or something? Oh, I get it -- the old command and control economy (cause people just can't be trusted).
We are too rich, that's the problem. Too much freedom to control our own destinies. We need the short leash, the era of limitations, the global village to get well. At least, that's the ever-recurring Demo message. Security over freedom, government 'guarantees' of benefits over real prosperity. Hart/Hillary would comprise a Demo dream ticket. (Course, maybe she wouldn't accept him as her VP.)

19 posted on 04/22/2003 4:26:21 AM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons ("Think logically, act globally" -- Bush the Younger)
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Social engineering is Hart's key - social teaking with selective taxation, until they have it all and then they'll pull out the whip.
20 posted on 04/22/2003 4:28:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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