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UK TIMES: Rogue regime (MORE ON GALLOWAY SCANDAL)
The Times ^ | April 23, 2003

Posted on 04/22/2003 2:54:02 PM PDT by MadIvan

Galloway needs to reveal more about his links with Iraq

George Galloway has never been a man whose judgment it would be wise to trust. A self-confessed nostalgic for Soviet communism, his most notorious words and actions have been those that furthered the interests of Saddam Hussein’s regime. Having saluted the tyrant’s “courage, strength and indefatigability” in 1994, Mr Galloway was energetic in campaigning for the lifting of the sanctions that contained Saddam and ferocious in his opposition to the military action taken against the regime. During the war to liberate Iraq, Mr Galloway denounced the coalition as “wolves”, called on Arab leaders to “stand by” Iraq and declared that “the only people fighting legally are the Iraqis who are defending their country”.

On the basis of the words he himself has been foolish enough to utter, Mr Galloway is a tainted man. But the allegations concerning Mr Galloway that emerged yesterday raise far more serious questions. If the claims made by The Daily Telegraph are true, and Mr Galloway received money for his services from the Iraqi regime, through the abuse of the Oil-for-Food programme, then he is guilty of more than just a lapse of judgment and moral sense. Mr Galloway would stand accused of stealing from the mouths of the Iraqi people he affected to support and accepting blood-stained money to sustain a life of luxury.

Mr Galloway has been characteristically vigorous in his own defence, alleging that the documents that appear to damn him are either forgeries or doctored papers, contrived to smear and silence an outspoken dissident. There will be many, not necessarily automatic supporters of Mr Galloway, who will reflect on the utility of these documents to his enemies. The timely unearthing of this cache of papers, secure in a lined box helpfully marked “Britain” in the midst of a looted and missile-damaged building, is certainly a boon to Mr Galloway’s critics.

The Glasgow Kelvin MP has promised to sue his accusers for defamation. In the libel courts there is a burden on the defendant to prove the truth of his claims. But in the wider court of public opinion there is also a burden on Mr Galloway to reveal more about his links with Iraq.

As our reporter Dominic Kennedy reveals, Mr Galloway has long had questions to answer about the funding of his activities. In 1998 he set up a campaign group, the Mariam Appeal, to raise funds for medical aid to Iraqi children. But since its foundation the appeal, which is not a registered charity, has paid for a series of trips undertaken by Mr Galloway. He maintains the appeal has been primarily supported by impeccable sources, yet he has so far failed to lay bare the workings of an organisation that funds his lavish itinerary.

There are also wider questions that the allegations against Mr Galloway raise about the operation of the UN’s Oil-for-Food programme. The sanctions imposed on Iraq after the first Gulf War were poorly policed by the UN, wide open to corruption and increasingly undermined by the activities of countries such as Russia. They were never a satisfactory means of containing Saddam, and their efficacy was undermined from within the UN by both Russia and France.

Their failure is a lesson to all who trust in the UN as sole guarantor of Iraq’s future. It is also the case that the shady nature of many of the oil dealings that took place under this programme only makes the definitive establishment of a money trail from Baghdad to Glasgow Kelvin more difficult. That is why it is in Mr Galloway’s own interests to deliver a detailed, and comprehensive, account of his finances, movements and activities in connection with Iraq over the past decade. If he has acted from principle, albeit in a terribly foolish cause, then he has nothing to fear from disclosure.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; corruption; galloway; georgegalloway; iraq; uk; us; warlist
Checkmate.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/22/2003 2:54:02 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: faithincowboys; hillary's_fat_a**; redbaiter; MizSterious; Krodg; hoosiermama; MeekMom; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 04/22/2003 2:54:15 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Evening Ivan!

Did you buy the telegraph today? I only wish I had a scanner for the picture of Galloway's wife! She'd last about 5 minutes in the middle east dressed like that.
3 posted on 04/22/2003 2:56:40 PM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: MadIvan
I am glad this is getting some play.

In the past things like this have gone unnoticed by the mainstream press.

Let's put it up again. and again. and again.

This man has profited from other's deaths. Including tyhe children of Iraq.

How many more will we see. Shine the light of truth on all of them, open the files for all to see.

4 posted on 04/22/2003 2:57:01 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (It's amazing how Hollywood and their Liberal friends redefine words like "Free Speech, Blood Money")
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To: MadIvan
Ivan this is just amazing stuff...
5 posted on 04/22/2003 2:57:57 PM PDT by Dog (Christy Lane Free Zone.....)
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To: alnitak
Unfortunately, no. But seeing George Galloway's wife is just not one of my priorities. ;)

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 04/22/2003 2:58:08 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Galloway? Is that how you Brits pronounce "Ritter"?
7 posted on 04/22/2003 2:59:39 PM PDT by per loin
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To: MadIvan
I think Mr. Galloway is in deep doo doo, as President Bush 41 would say. Ivan, is this how one gets kicked out of Parliament?
9 posted on 04/22/2003 3:00:46 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: MadIvan
Apparently Galloway is threatening a libel suit, which he has not yet filed.

I think the Telegraph has their ducks in a row, or they would not have printed the allegations.

This should be interesting .

10 posted on 04/22/2003 3:01:31 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: 3AngelaD
I suspect he'll be kicked out of the Labour Party, the next step would be for criminal charges to be filed, and then a special election will be held to fill his seat.

His seat is due to be abolished anyway in the next election, due to a reduction in the number of Scottish MPs - it wasn't looking likely he would be able to hold on when others more loyal to Blair are in position.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 04/22/2003 3:02:31 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Thanks, MadIvan.

So we know that an MP makes 55K pounds a year.

We also know that Galloway owns some nice real estate in Glasgow, London and Portugal.

We know that his wife is a professor, but I don't know how much they're paid in the UK. Probably about the same amount.

We know that he worked as a union thug before he was elected.

Interesting.

13 posted on 04/22/2003 3:03:21 PM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Miss Marple
David Blair was on ITN News earlier today. He described how he found it, where he found it (he showed Sky News where he found it). The papers were in the middle of a box file marked "Britain". David said in response to the idea that the documents are forgeries:

"A forger would have to make the documents, photocopy them, annotate them, stick them in the middle of a box file in a small store room in the centre of the Iraqi Foreign Ministry, on the off chance that a British journalist would find it."

All to take down one relatively obscure Labour MP. I don't think so.

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 04/22/2003 3:04:48 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I wonder what else was in the box?
15 posted on 04/22/2003 3:05:26 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: MadIvan
I really don't find Galloway much different than William Joyce, Lord Haw Haw. A shame he can't be prosecuted similarly.
16 posted on 04/22/2003 3:06:00 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: Badabing Badaboom
Well, not scantily page 3 style, but skirt well above the knee, reclining on a sofa. Not what I expected.
17 posted on 04/22/2003 3:06:14 PM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: MadIvan
which is not a registered charity,

Voila.

18 posted on 04/22/2003 3:06:19 PM PDT by Shermy (Full disclosure of Food For Oil books...No Compromise!!!)
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To: mewzilla
It gets more interesting, David Blair also pulled the box on France. He's going through that one next apparently.

Regards, Ivan

19 posted on 04/22/2003 3:06:23 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
this guy got a lot of explaining to do,and nobody will believe one word.
20 posted on 04/22/2003 3:06:36 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: MadIvan
I agree with the reporter, having read the post earlier today about how he found the documents.

I am MOST interested in the boxes labeled "United States." If we are lucky, there will be documents linking the Saddam regime to the Clinton Library.

21 posted on 04/22/2003 3:08:02 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MadIvan
Scott Ritter's and Sean Penn's must be in the one marked "U.S.". Probably a very full box.
22 posted on 04/22/2003 3:09:42 PM PDT by techcor (Admin Moderator wannabe)
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To: Miss Marple
there will be documents linking the Saddam regime to the Clinton Library.

From your fingers to god's ear......:-)

23 posted on 04/22/2003 3:11:18 PM PDT by Dog (Christy Lane Free Zone.....)
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To: Miss Marple
The Clinton Library? Not likely.

Jim McDermott and other Democrats in Congress? Very likely.

24 posted on 04/22/2003 3:11:22 PM PDT by Publius
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To: MadIvan; alnitak
Check out this Galloway interview from last year...worth reposting?

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4501707,00.html
25 posted on 04/22/2003 3:13:08 PM PDT by Shermy (Full disclosure of Food For Oil books...No Compromise!!!)
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To: MadIvan
Did he take it out of the ministry? He say he's going to report more on it?
26 posted on 04/22/2003 3:14:57 PM PDT by Shermy (Full disclosure of Food For Oil books...No Compromise!!!)
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To: MadIvan
So what does anyone think the chances are that US intelligence had not already examined the contents of that box and many more like it? I just don't think it too likely that US operatives would allow an unathorized person to just fumble around through sensitive documuments that are obviously of high interest to us.....
27 posted on 04/22/2003 3:18:51 PM PDT by telebob
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To: MadIvan
Sadly, this doesn't emphasize the possible criminal conduct of Galloway, but the "court of public opinion", and standing accused of "stealing food from the mouths of Iraqi children." The article doesn't mention any possibility of a criminal investigation for actual crimes, like fraud, embezzlement or treason.

I don't know how things work in the UK when it comes to elected officials being involved in criminal misconduct, but if Galloway was a US Congressman, there would be a Congressional investigation starting up right about now, as well as a Justice Department investigation, or at least a comment from the Justice Department about what they might do.

What are other MPs saying about a criminal investigation? Is your (equivalent of the Justice Department) commenting on whether or not they are going to investigate the matter?

28 posted on 04/22/2003 3:20:50 PM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: telebob
Maybe, but it's a chaotic situation. In Kabul the press came upon all sorts of stuff like this too in various places.
29 posted on 04/22/2003 3:21:20 PM PDT by Shermy (Full disclosure of Food For Oil books...No Compromise!!!)
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To: Shermy
Charities have to disclose their sources of income, you see, so this is actually a rather cunning dodge.
30 posted on 04/22/2003 3:24:58 PM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: Shermy
Yes, he's got the boxes in his hotel room now and is reading them.

Regards, Ivan

31 posted on 04/22/2003 3:28:02 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan; Happygal; general_re; aculeus; Poohbah; BlueLancer; Chancellor Palpatine; backhoe
The Glasgow Kelvin MP has promised to sue his accusers for defamation.

By all means, do. What could possibly go wrong?

;-)

32 posted on 04/22/2003 3:29:11 PM PDT by dighton (Amen-Corner Hatchet Team, Nasty Little Clique™)
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To: MadIvan; All
Cross-link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/898108/posts
MP George Galloway- voice cries "peace," hand in Saddam's till...
various FR links | 04-22-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
33 posted on 04/22/2003 3:32:07 PM PDT by backhoe (For Evil to prosper, it is only necessary that good men do nothing...)
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To: MadIvan
His wife's name is Amineh Abu Zaid. What is her national extraction?
34 posted on 04/22/2003 3:40:09 PM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
She's a Palestinian (quelle surprise). Try my posts in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/898208/posts
35 posted on 04/22/2003 3:44:40 PM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: dighton; MadIvan; aculeus; hellinahandcart; Poohbah
What could possibly go wrong?

...part two.

Sometimes, even when you win, you lose...

36 posted on 04/22/2003 3:50:36 PM PDT by general_re (You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me....)
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To: alnitak
She's a Palestinian (quelle surprise). Try my posts in this thread:

Thanks. Wonder where she could be???

37 posted on 04/22/2003 3:58:42 PM PDT by Carolina
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OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
38 posted on 04/22/2003 4:24:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: MadIvan
"Yes, he's got the boxes in his hotel room now and is reading them."

I hope there are people protecting him...and those files.
39 posted on 04/22/2003 4:31:21 PM PDT by Windcatcher ("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
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To: MadIvan
"A self-confessed nostalgic for Soviet communism..."

People voted him into Parlaiment anyway. Why? Because they think the former Soviet bloc would have been better off if BRITAIN had run the former Soviet bloc??

"...his most notorious words and actions have been those that furthered the interests of Saddam Hussein’s regime"

See above. Saddam's regime was founded upon the regimes of his idols, Hitler and Stalin. It makes the people who voted this creep into office look rather...well...creepy, at least from here.

Sorry.

40 posted on 04/22/2003 4:54:28 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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"Apparently Galloway is threatening a libel suit, which he has not yet filed."

Interesting yes? He went from being a cool customer upon being initially questioned by the Telegraph to threating 'I'LL SUE, I'LL SUE' less than 12 hours later. RIVITINGLY short period of time for such extremes of reaction, by the SAME MAN, for the SAME ALLEGATIONS.

Proof to me his accusations that the Telegraph forged the documents are just do much projection, just from the media spin on his ONE REACTION to the same set of questions.

41 posted on 04/22/2003 5:08:13 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: telebob
"I just don't think it too likely that US operatives would allow an unathorized person to just fumble around through sensitive documuments that are obviously of high interest to us....."

It's happend. It's also happened with British intelligence. The IS a good chance, however, that the fact that this info was published means the journalists who found it turned the relevant portions over to the proper authorities. UNFORTUNATELY, it ALSO means they may have turned the French info over to Jagues and the UN info over to Khofi, so we'll never hear about that.....unless they thought ahead and made multipal of copies it, which they very well may have done.

If they didn't, we're SOL, because of recognized sovereignity in th e case of France, and just weasellyness in general in the case of the UN, which is NOT a sovereign entity, no matter HOW much the Third Way types would like us to think it is.

42 posted on 04/22/2003 5:27:56 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: MadIvan
Someone on another thread was asking if this was the gent that was sueing the Telegraph for libel. Have you heard anything about this Ivan or is it rumor?

Prairie
43 posted on 04/22/2003 6:21:17 PM PDT by prairiebreeze ("We will not deny, ignore or pass our problems along to other Presidents"---GW Bush)
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To: MadIvan
oops. Nevermind, I got distracted and skipped over the discussion about this

Prairie
44 posted on 04/22/2003 6:24:51 PM PDT by prairiebreeze ("We will not deny, ignore or pass our problems along to other Presidents"---GW Bush)
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To: prairiebreeze
Master list link for Useless Nations oil for food scam master link
45 posted on 04/22/2003 6:28:35 PM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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