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Cypress Gardens to close (Florida's First Theme Part Osama Victim)
Polkonline.com ^ | April 11, 2003 | SANDI MARTIN

Posted on 04/23/2003 5:41:23 AM PDT by MalcolmS

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To: stuartcr
It doesn't have much to attract children.

Really? My family visited Florida when I was 8, and I still have more vivid memories of Cypress Gardens than Disneyworld. I had a blast; it rained hard all day, and I didn't care.

41 posted on 04/23/2003 8:33:48 AM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: inflorida
Your car is rolling backwards - UP HILL!
42 posted on 04/23/2003 8:37:41 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: inflorida
The Mystery of Spook Hill by Spook Hill Elementary School

Indian Legend
After the Seminoles left the Cherokee nation, they settled in Central Florida away from the white man's lodges to the North. One legendary chief settled on the lake which is now known as Lake Wailes. Here he had all the advantages of a high campsite on a lake which offered fresh water and good fishing. It was also close to Iron Mountain which, as the highest point in Florida, was sacred to the Indians' Sun God.

The chief, Cufcowellax, and his people were happy for several years, but then one day a huge bull alligator moved into the lake and began to harass the tribe. Soon it began nightly raids on the village, and the tribe lived in terror of this evil spirit that inhabited their lake.

The legend says that Cufcowellax was a chief of great physical prowess and courage. He had great stature among his people both as a warrior and as a ruler. When he saw his people in constant fear, the chief, fearing for their safety, set out to conquer the evil spirit. His tribal shaman and elders placed him under the protection of the Great Spirit and he began his search.

Though many suns came and went, he could not catch the 'gator. Finally one morning he came upon the 'gator on the northwest shore as it dragged another night's victim into the lake.

The legend says the chief battled the 'gator on land and water for a moon, and then suddenly the great thrashing stopped, and the water of the lake turned red.

The tribe watched the surface of the lake in fearful anticipation. With great joy they saw their chief rise from the water. In the midst of their celebration they saw something else. The great battle had made a smaller lake near the big one. When the chief died, he was buried on the shore of the little lake, Ticowa, and the place became sacred to the Indians.

Discovery of Spook Hill
The Indians lost their camping grounds to the encroaching white settlers. Circuit riders carrying mail between the coasts used the old trail around Lake Ticowa until they discovered that their horses were laboring downhill. It was they who first called the place Spook Hill.

Some forty years later as the area developed, the citrus industry grew. Soon the hills around Lake Ticowa were covered with citrus groves. Workers driving their wagons around the lake were startled to find their mule teams struggling downhill with a load.

Years later the road was paved and residents found their cars would roll uphill by themselves. Others came to test this phenomenon, and it soon became a major attraction for visitors.

43 posted on 04/23/2003 8:41:28 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: stuartcr
I guess I'm not explaining myself very well. Why does every place have to be a full-fledged amusement park? Part of the joy of the Gardens was......... the GARDENS - the gardens in and of themselves are a botanical treasure - which is something the Disney properties sorely lack with their fake facades, etc. Even their zoo is very lacking in that regard. And the Florida-shaped pool. And the boat ride through the glades. And the peaceful serenity. Even as a kid I appreciated these things. And my kids appreciate them too. Not every place has to have roller coasters and high-tech thrills.
44 posted on 04/23/2003 8:43:59 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: RansomOttawa
I'm with you (reference my posts above :-).
45 posted on 04/23/2003 8:45:25 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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46 posted on 04/23/2003 8:46:51 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Disney is as fake as it gets, but the model works. The Gardens are beautiful, but failed to adjust to the market enough and in time. (At least for now)

As I said before, $34.95 to watch water skiers may have had something to do with it.

47 posted on 04/23/2003 8:50:05 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: inflorida
http://www.boktower.org/

Long story short - the surroundings outside of the Bok Tower Sanctuary and Gardens - constitute the town of "Mountain Lake" which was one of the very first gated communities in the entire US. There's a lot of "old money" there - the people who bought property there in the early 1900's were the tycoons and the "robber barons" like the Rockefellers, etc. My dad still maintains his locksmithing business and regularly services locks on the estate homes, so he gets paid with checks written on all the NY & Chicago high-powered banks ;-).

48 posted on 04/23/2003 8:53:12 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thanks, I get it now. It just seemed that the white line was a bit uphill but I guess it is about the illusion.
49 posted on 04/23/2003 8:53:30 AM PDT by inflorida
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To: Sam's Army
I would definitely agree that that price is not in line with the market.
50 posted on 04/23/2003 8:54:25 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
We loved the Bok Tower Sanctuary and Garden. At 3:00 they played the bells and it was beautiful. If we lived closer we would definitely become annual members.
51 posted on 04/23/2003 8:55:42 AM PDT by inflorida
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I never said any of that, I'm just commenting on the fact that attendance is down, and the reasons I see for why it is. I don't have anything against CG, and I don't care for Disney, in fact, I miss places like the Parrot Jungle and Serpentarium...but I'm also old.
52 posted on 04/23/2003 9:03:37 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: inflorida
Another article for your reading pleasure :-):

Cheap Thrill On A Hill

Do cars roll uphill on their own? In the serene town of Lake Wales, a phenomenon of this sort is an everyday occurrence. In fact, cars that appear to defy gravity are as common a sight as a pair of overalls in the small farming and mining community.

On any given Saturday as many as 30 cars an hour show up to witness the magic of Spook Hill. Thrill seekers of the bizarre take their place on an officially painted line at the bottom of the haunted hill, place their cars in neutral and begin a gradual decent upward.

Lake Wales is unique in that of all the Florida towns, it actually has a hill and even more so that they have one of such mystical proportion. In celebration they have respectfully dressed up their asphalt apparition with cut out letters suspended on wires that spell out its name.

Residents knew there was no place to go but up with their marvel. Every town needs a claim to fame and nothing generates business in a nondescript little community quite like intrigue. The Wall Street Journal once called Spook Hill the "piney pitstop of the paranormal."

According to legend, Spook Hill gave rise back in the days when the Seminole Indian Chief Cufcowellax led his tribe into battle against a giant alligator that terrorized the town. The battle went on for months and created a depression along with a lake in the landscape, next to which, the body of the fallen chief was buried. Mail carriers years later realized that their horses struggled when walking down the hill. The horses exerted the kind of effort they normally used going uphill. It's ok if you don't remember any of this later. They have it all painted on a sign at the bottom of the hill.

More than one visitor has placed a carpenter's level near the hill's halfway point and found an upward slope. Students of geology at USF in Tampa insist it is all just an illusion and that you are actually going down hill. As with any oddity in nature there are always skeptics and the town is more than happy to oblige in the haunting of imaginations.

53 posted on 04/23/2003 9:17:34 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: inflorida
Apparently my grandpa (my mom's father) had some sort of connection to Katherine Harris' grandpa (Ben Hill Griffin - through football, no doubt) - I've got a call into my parents right now to verify that story (and will share that with you after I talk with my parents again). Back in 1930, the members of the Lake Wales High School football team had somehow found out that my grandpa had played reserve quarterback for the Fighting Illini (big deal Big 10 school team even back then - my grandpa knew Red Grange as well). So they begged him to coach that year, having a record of something like 0 wins-28 losses the previous season. I guess they figured they had nowhere to go but up. In any event, my grandpa coached them all the way to the state championship game the next year and their record was 28 wins - 1 loss. The guys on that team all thought my grandpa walked on water ;-), and many of them were still alive to come to my grandpa's funeral when he died when he was 95 years old.
54 posted on 04/23/2003 9:24:59 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thanks for the info on Spook Hill and your grandpa's story. :-)
55 posted on 04/23/2003 9:34:20 AM PDT by inflorida
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To: MalcolmS
You'll also get a kick out of the fact that my grandpa was a fraternity brother (TKE), albeit a few years older, to Ronald Reagan through Eureka College, where my grandpa attended before transferring to U of Ill.
56 posted on 04/23/2003 10:52:25 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Thanks for the welcome to FR. I've lurked for probably a couple of years, but haven't signed up to post until recently.
57 posted on 04/23/2003 11:14:14 AM PDT by MalcolmS
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To: stuartcr
While I don't disagree with you that attendance has been going down for years, and that they had a tough road to hoe with the proximity to pther attractions, or that the admission price of $34.95 for one day was perhaps a bit out of line; I DO strongly disagree on the appeal of Cypress Gardens to kids. My daughter is now 17 and is STILL angry with me because she never got to dress up as a southern belle and stroll though the Gardens. (Please note, she is not talking to me about a certain ride she missed at Disney and is complaining about meeting her cousing there for a weekend this summer.) My son loved the place. Did we go there often? No, sadly, not as often as we SHOULD have. Do we go to other attractions often, No. We average one or two 'theme park' visits a year.

In MY opinion, CG really isn't a so much a theme park, although it USED to be, and they could get visitors back with some minor changes and the kids would enjoy it. They don't need more thrill rides, they need to do what they are already doing, just a little better. Change the concerts, either lower the admission or include the dress up thing as part of the deal... yes the kids will say it is hokey, but they all REALLY WANT to do it. Keep the Easter Service and the Christmas lights, those are magical.

And if they need to have the State help them out, so be it. (I'd rather have another company take it over and fix it, but...rather the state than condos) Our kids need to know our history. There are worse things we are spending our money on.
58 posted on 04/26/2003 4:01:21 AM PDT by birdwoman
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