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Study: Fat Causes 90,000 U.S. Cancer Deaths a Year
AP via Foxnews.com ^ | 4/24/03 | AP

Posted on 04/24/2003 8:31:05 AM PDT by jalisco555

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:36:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Losing weight could prevent one of every six cancer deaths in the United States -- more than 90,000 each year, according to a sweeping study that experts say links fat and cancer more convincingly than ever before.

Researchers spent 16 years evaluating 900,000 people who were cancer-free when the study began in 1982. They concluded that excess weight may account for 14 percent of all cancer deaths in men and 20 percent of those in women.


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Food for thought.
1 posted on 04/24/2003 8:31:05 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555
Food for thought.

Think before you eat.

2 posted on 04/24/2003 8:33:38 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: jalisco555
Paging Jerrold Nadler...
3 posted on 04/24/2003 8:34:40 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: jalisco555
Something to chew on.
4 posted on 04/24/2003 8:34:43 AM PDT by templar
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To: jalisco555
There are two big reasons the overall link is stronger in women than in men, Calle said.

"More women are obese," she said.

This used to be called a non sequiter.

Then bringing up breast cancer only makes it salacious.

5 posted on 04/24/2003 8:35:42 AM PDT by DrNo
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To: jalisco555
Both Ryan and Calle said attitudes must change about weight the way they did about smoking. They said communities, workplaces, schools and transportation all need to change to make it easier both to eat right and exercise. "We've developed a culture where you have to work really hard to eat right and exercise," Calle said. "We're kind of stacking the deck against ourselves.

"Until we accept that it is a bigger problem than one of individual discipline, we probably won't be too successful in turning it around."

Time for the lawyers of fast-food chains and junk-food manufacturers to start preparing for the inevitable tobacco-style class-action suit. Then the states' attorneys general can extort more hundreds of billions, earmark them for health care, and spend them on mohair subsidies.

6 posted on 04/24/2003 8:36:18 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I predict hysteria at the UN)
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To: jalisco555
the american health system, already dysfunctional, will implode within 5 years as the impact of fat people collides with reality.

a college nurse told me that she regularly sees teens with blood sugars of 600 (normal 70-120).

type-2 diabetes used to be a disease of the elderly. but now with high fructose corn syrup in almost every food product, type-2 has gravitated downwards to young people.

the reality is--you can't eat what the majority of americans eat daily and stay healthy, period, regardless of republican or democrat politics! not to mention no exercise, sitting in a recliner, watching tv an average of 8 hours per day.
7 posted on 04/24/2003 8:36:41 AM PDT by liberalnot
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To: jalisco555
Are they going to outlaw fat now?
8 posted on 04/24/2003 8:37:39 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: jalisco555
Define fat.

The definition has changed with the introduction of the BMI. According to it, I'm borderline obese (5'9", 205 lbs), despite the fact that I can run a 6 minute mile, touch a 10 foot rim on a basketball goal and play sports 3 times a week (basketball and volleyball). Do the people who made this scale up want everyone to look like Lara Flynn Boyle?
9 posted on 04/24/2003 8:38:55 AM PDT by SkiHatGuy
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To: jalisco555
The title of the article is misleading. The author should have said "Obesity Causes 90,000..." as the original insinuates the consumption of fat causes cancer.
10 posted on 04/24/2003 8:40:29 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: honeygrl
I am wondering how true that is. Look at Linda McCartney - she was skinny as a rail and a vegetarian and she died of cancer. So many skinny people die of cancer too and not just breast cancer! This is very strange!
11 posted on 04/24/2003 8:40:52 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: SkiHatGuy
Define fat.

This is from the abstract of the Journal article:

The heaviest members of this cohort (those with a body-mass index [the weight in kilograms divided by the square of the height in meters] of at least 40) had death rates from all cancers combined that were 52 percent higher (for men) and 62 percent higher (for women) than the rates in men and women of normal weight. For men, the relative risk of death was 1.52 (95 percent confidence interval, 1.13 to 2.05); for women, the relative risk was 1.62 (95 percent confidence interval, 1.40 to 1.87). In both men and women, body-mass index was also significantly associated with higher rates of death due to cancer of the esophagus, colon and rectum, liver, gallbladder, pancreas, and kidney; the same was true for death due to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and multiple myeloma. Significant trends of increasing risk with higher body-mass-index values were observed for death from cancers of the stomach and prostate in men and for death from cancers of the breast, uterus, cervix, and ovary in women. On the basis of associations observed in this study, we estimate that current patterns of overweight and obesity in the United States could account for 14 percent of all deaths from cancer in men and 20 percent of those in women.

13 posted on 04/24/2003 8:46:24 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: SkiHatGuy
The BMI doesn't take into account the three body types: ectomorph/endomorph/mesomorph.
14 posted on 04/24/2003 8:48:57 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: SkiHatGuy
"Define fat."

Refer to post #3

15 posted on 04/24/2003 8:50:01 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: jalisco555
:-) DONUTS :-)
16 posted on 04/24/2003 8:53:25 AM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: jalisco555
And yet Rosie lives on. Where is justice?
17 posted on 04/24/2003 8:54:21 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: jalisco555
When I started smoking, I lost weight (70lbs). If I quit smoking and re-gain the weight - does that mean that I will die of cancer? I'm confused, which is worse, being overweight, or smoking?
18 posted on 04/24/2003 8:57:13 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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To: jalisco555
Lift weights.
19 posted on 04/24/2003 9:01:39 AM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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To: PaxMacian

There they go bad-mouthing West Virginians again!

;) Anyway, I hope this is true cause I'm down 10 lbs (out of a needed 40) so far this year.

20 posted on 04/24/2003 9:04:57 AM PDT by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: jalisco555
In the words of Warren Zevon, "Life will Kill Ya", and there is no known cure for that.
21 posted on 04/24/2003 9:05:28 AM PDT by dts32041 (The power to tax, once conceded, has no limits; it continues until it destroys.- RAH)
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To: NotQuiteCricket
LOL - Once we conquer the demon of fat and increase our life spans to 120 years, then we can go after tobacco, alcohol, smog, lack of exercise; and before you know it we'll be living to be 1,000 years old and won't need health insurance anymore. Well, maybe not. I forgot about auto accidents, heart disease, viruses like SARS, AIDS, and Hep C., wars, famines, drought, earthquakes, floods, fires and storms. Well, if we can overcome these things too then we can all live to be 1,000. Right? ;o)
22 posted on 04/24/2003 9:07:15 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: mountaineer; folklore; EternalVigilance
West Virginia: Home of the all you can eat $7.99 steak buffet! Sooooeeeee...here pig, pig, pig, pig.

23 posted on 04/24/2003 9:13:34 AM PDT by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: jalisco555
For the children alert.
24 posted on 04/24/2003 9:13:34 AM PDT by Leisler (I am a carnivore and I vote.)
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To: jalisco555
"They concluded that excess weight may account for 14 percent of all cancer deaths in men and 20 percent of those in women.

OKAY......I have always weighed more than I look like I weigh....because, as a woman, I have more muscle from constant activity.....soooooo....do I have excess weight...? This is more about inactivity and calorie consumption than anything.....I'm pissed because our part of the med insurance will double next year.....and my husband and I exercise and eat pretty well.....where's the benefit for doing that? Nowhere.....people who USE the system benefit, those that don't just pay. I want some type of catastrophic insurance offered by companies to their employees, or at least some kind of reward to those who TRY TO be healthy. (NO....I did NOT say the gov't should reward....I said the COMPANY! Keep the government OUT of HEALTHCARE!) /RANT.....now I'm going for my power walk!

25 posted on 04/24/2003 9:14:04 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Rename the UN.....the ..........TTS..............Totalitarian Tyrants Society (with sticky fingers))
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To: jalisco555
Nah, in a couple of days they will say, it wasn't fat after all, it was first, second, third and fourth hand smoke.
26 posted on 04/24/2003 9:15:12 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: brianl703
The BMI doesn't take into account the three body types: ectomorph/endomorph/mesomorph.

BMI is stupid from the word go. You can't simply correlate height and weight and expect it to work for everyone, and that is exactly what they do. BMI tells you nothing about body fat percentage, and that is exactly what it is used to report!

I have seen people (including myself) that BMI calls obese whose extra weight is muscle mass, not fat mass. A lot of people don't realize that exercising can actually make you gain weight by building muscle. They look at the scale and BMI and assume they are doing terrible when they aren't.

27 posted on 04/24/2003 9:20:02 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: DrNo
I am 52 and ALL men in this town my age have BIG bellies if they don't work out at the gym (and some of them have big bellies too). Not too many of the women around here are that fat. Granted, the fat women tend to be obese, but more men here are FAT than women. Which reminds me I haven't been to the gym yet today. I do that at least six hours a week. Small town. Only place to socialize besides WalMart and eating out.
28 posted on 04/24/2003 9:21:47 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: PaxMacian
Donuts are just fat thighs in the larval stage.... ha ha ha
29 posted on 04/24/2003 9:22:20 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: hopespringseternal
You are right. One of the trainers at our gym has really muscular arms and legs. Her body fat is LOW LOW LOW. But her doctor tells her she weighs too much. IT IS MUSCLE. And she looks great, not manly, she is very fit and feminine. BMI would make it look like she is fat. And she carried no fat. BTW she is so active and cheerful and helpful and happy and healthy. I want to try to be 25% like her, no way I can be 100% like her!
30 posted on 04/24/2003 9:25:15 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: jalisco555
Somebody sue Burger King....
31 posted on 04/24/2003 9:25:17 AM PDT by citizen (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
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To: SkiHatGuy
Define fat.

"The definition has changed with the introduction of the BMI. According to it, I'm borderline obese (5'9", 205 lbs), despite the fact that I can run a 6 minute mile, touch a 10 foot rim on a basketball goal and play sports 3 times a week (basketball and volleyball). Do the people who made this scale up want everyone to look like Lara Flynn Boyle?"

If you read the fine print about BMI, it doesn't take into account athletic builds. It should be used for the average Joe. By BMI standards I'm considered obese too at 5'10" and 225 pounds. I run and lift all the time - last week did a 5K under 21 minutes and maxed out bench pressing at 330 lbs. While in the Army for 8 years I never once passed their height-weight standards, I always had to have my body fat tested. I've never been above 12%. So, long story short, keep running and lifting and don't worry about the scale and the BMI index.

32 posted on 04/24/2003 9:33:09 AM PDT by strider44
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To: SkiHatGuy
Same here - I'm 5'11", 228, and considered obese by the BMI. I'm in the best shape of my life - I've added about twenty pounds of muscle in the past six months, I bike ten miles a day, and my running mile's just a wee bit slower than yours - but as far as the BMI,and the insurance companies that use it, are concerned, pounds are pounds.
33 posted on 04/24/2003 9:36:26 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: Xthe17th
Funny how so many of those "hog trough" style restaurants are located in the South (Ryan's, Shoney's, and so forth). I just read an article citing a Purdue University study which indicated that people of faith are MORE LIKELY to be obese than those who are agnostic or atheist. Of the known religious affiliations, the Baptists were the most obese of all. Eastern Tennessee is littered with "hog trough" restaurants; we have tons (no pun intended) of Southern Baptists hereabouts, and cancer rates in this area are the highest in the state. Coincidence? Hmmmm...



34 posted on 04/24/2003 9:49:24 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (The Bible Belt is a myth!)
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To: jalisco555
"O great gods of societal engineering, save us from ourselves!" bump
35 posted on 04/24/2003 9:53:44 AM PDT by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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A BMI of at least 40???? Ain't that why it's called MORBIDLY OBESE
36 posted on 04/24/2003 9:54:52 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: jalisco555
Interesting study, but since FAT causes obesity why did they rely on BMI to determine their findings? BMI doesn't measure body fat, it will give you a generic weight range. Two people can have the same BMI, but a different percent body fat.

The CDC itself admits that BMI calculations unfairly tell millions of Americans that they are overweight. But the agency says the formula was never meant to tell those people they are "overfat."

Under the same CDC guidelines, Andrew, a 240-pound weightlifter and former Mr. Australia, is obese. Just would need to lose 70 pounds to get in shape.

Under the CDC's guideline, he says, "I'm incredibly unhealthy, and probably should have been dead yesterday, but obviously, I'm not."

Using this scale, Mel Gibson is overweight. He scores a 25. Barry Bonds of the San Francisco Giants scores a 29: He's overweight. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a 33 — obese.

also if you are 5-feet, 7-inches tall and weigh 159 pounds, your BMI is a marginally satisfactory 24.9. 25 is overweight. However, if you creep up to 160 pounds, you fall into the overweight category with a BMI of 25.1.

Sounds like junk science to me.

37 posted on 04/24/2003 10:26:55 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: liberalnot
not to mention no exercise, sitting in a recliner, watching tv an average of 8 hours per day.....and sitting at the computer on Free Republic for most of the day!!!!!

38 posted on 04/24/2003 10:33:27 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: jalisco555
I did my BMI - 18.6; I guess I am a low normal.
39 posted on 04/24/2003 10:47:34 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: SkiHatGuy
5'9" @ 205 pounds gives you a 28.5 BMI - almost 4 full points above high normal (24.9)
40 posted on 04/24/2003 10:52:17 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: SkiHatGuy
Correction: 5'9" @ 205 pounds gives you a 30.2 BMI - almost 4 full points above high normal (24.9)

I mistakenly entered 71" the first time I ran the numbers for your height.

You fat, boy.

41 posted on 04/24/2003 10:54:42 AM PDT by Old Professer
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To: jalisco555
What amuses me (not that this articel is in any way funny) is the constant bombardment of anti-smoking commercials we see, and yet, if they were to attack fat folks the way they do smokers, well, need I say more?
42 posted on 04/24/2003 10:55:50 AM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
"article" oops. :(...
43 posted on 04/24/2003 10:58:06 AM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: snowstorm12
It's transparent that BMI was calculated to include as many of us as possible. If I'm not mistaken, there has been at least one "correction" to it after protests from non-obese people BMI marked as obese. The bigger class of fatsos, the bigger the size of the problem presented to the media and the purse string holders in all the federal and local governments.

Another disguised key fact, which only one article I have read exposed, is that the so-called "obesity epidemic" affects mostly, almost exclusively, the lower social classes in this classless communist (in this respect at least) society. And as we know, the professional socialists in our government are most concerned about serving the easily manipulable, dependable voters among the lower classes (without ever admitting it.)

44 posted on 04/24/2003 11:09:32 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the conspiracy of inanimate objects!)
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To: jalisco555
Researchers spent 16 years evaluating 900,000 people who were cancer-free when the study began in 1982. They concluded that excess weight may account for 14 percent of all cancer deaths in men and 20 percent of those in women.

"Because of the magnitude and strength of the study, it's irrefutable," said Dr. Donna Ryan, head of clinical research at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge. "It's absolutely convincing. And therefore it's frightening."

It raises levels of insulin, prompting the body to create a hormone which causes cells to multiply.


Donna's not thinking well. Looking at the last sentence quoted above, I bet they didn't control for level of physical activity. This has been typical of most of these studies relating body weight to disease and a major confounder in the data. In very large (no pun intended) studies relating weight to morbidity done at the Cooper Institute in Dallas, TX by Stephen Blair and others, much of the morbidity due to excess weight is actually due to the decrease in physical activity that initially led to and reinforced the gain in body fat. Some of these studies have shown that obese adult men who had sufficient activity were much less likely to die from a variety of causes than were lean men who were physically inactive.

In a meeting for the students in our department when Dr. Blair was here as the featured speaker at the annual Lydia J. Roberts Seminar, he told us that he and others had questioned researchers about why they had not included physical activity level as a variable to be controlled in their experiments. They just hadn't thought it was important. Think of that. A variable that determines one's metabolic state, one's levels of endocrine signaling, one's level of cardiovascular fitness was something that they just didn't much thought to. Donna needs to remember that what she doesn't know can be as important as what she thinks she does know.
45 posted on 04/24/2003 11:10:05 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: jalisco555
Something else that's not being considered is how many deaths are prevented by high average levels of nutrition. Earlier in U.S. and British history, there were much higher rates of deaths due to organ failure because incomplete tissue development from inadequate nutrition. Considering that the average life span has continued to go higher and higher shows that some deaths are merely being traded for others--but not at a rate to offset the increase in lifespan. So even if carrying a lot of fat can cause cancer, the economy and lifestyle that promotes such obesity also results in a lower overall deathrate at earlier ages. It's just a matter of pluses outweighing minuses.
46 posted on 04/24/2003 11:15:46 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: VanillaCoke
Lara is gonna disappear entirely if she loses any more weight.

You could cut yourself on her cheekbones right now.
47 posted on 04/24/2003 11:32:40 AM PDT by altura (I am so sick of these whiney liberals. Shut up!!!)
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To: buffyt
My point is simply that the proportion of women (or men) who are obese has no logical connection with the STRENGTH of the association of obesity with cancer!

48 posted on 04/24/2003 11:34:45 AM PDT by DrNo
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To: brianl703
Or big bones! (ha)
49 posted on 04/24/2003 11:35:37 AM PDT by altura (I am so sick of these whiney liberals. Shut up!!!)
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To: GrandMoM
sitting at the computer ....

now, you've stopped preachin' and one to meddlin'
50 posted on 04/24/2003 11:39:04 AM PDT by altura (I am so sick of these whiney liberals. Shut up!!!)
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