[general_re]

What I'm saying is that the notion that the product of hukan parthenogenesis is an embryo is hardly as clear as it's being made out to be. This is an area, IMO, still open to discussion, and simply asserting that it is an embryo without supporting that assertion does not advance the discussion.

[general_re]

"hukan". Good one - one of my better typos ;)

[MHGinTN]

I trust you would admit that if even one parthogenesis conceived embryo has gestated to being born, the parthenote has to be an embryo else not one would ever make it to birth. That self-evident fact argues for the inclusion of parthenotes in the category of 'embryo', albeit that most are severely deformed and do not make it to birth in higher mammals. But some have, as you have noted on other threads.