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SARS BUG DEADLIER THAN AIDS SAYS DOCTOR
Daily Record.UK ^ | 4/24/2003 | Staff

Posted on 04/24/2003 7:39:52 PM PDT by ex-Texan

SARS BUG DEADLIER THAN AIDS SAYS DOCTOR

A LEADING doctor has warned the SARS virus could be more devastating than AIDS.

Dr Patrick Dickson called on world governments to act to stamp out the threat from the deadly respiratory illness.

Dr Dixon, one of Europe's experts on predicting global trends, said it could be more dangerous than AIDS because of its ability to spread quickly.

He said: "It is worth remembering that AIDS has infected 80 million people so far over 15 to 20 years.

"AIDS spreads slowly so we can track it and plan for it. We have effective anti- viral drugs which can prolong life.

"But this is different, we don't have the time. This is a far more serious epidemic potentially than AIDS."

Dr Dixon said his main concern was rural, isolated areas in China and around the world.

He added: "In a country like India, which is chaotic with minimum health provision, the potential for spreading the virus is huge."

Dr Dixon, a fellow at the Centre for Management Development at London Business School, said if current trends continued, there could be a billion cases within 60 weeks.

He has called on world leaders to address the problem as a matter of "national security".

The Government yesterday advised Britons not to travel to Toronto, Hong Kong and the Chinese provinces of Guangdong, Beijing and Shanxi because of SARS.

Toronto is the first location outside Asia added to the list.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: sars; sarsscary
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1 posted on 04/24/2003 7:39:52 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
This article has been posted maybe three or four times already and every time there is the same strange failure to spell this doctor's name the same way throughout the article.

Is it "Dickson" or "Dixon"? If they can't get this minimum detail right how much confidence can we place in the rest of it?
2 posted on 04/24/2003 7:48:32 PM PDT by John Valentine (Writing from downtown Seoul, keeping an eye on the hills to the north.)
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To: ex-Texan
Dr Dixon, a fellow at the Centre for Management Development at London Business School, said if current trends continued, there could be a billion cases within 60 weeks.

How many are they saying die from it? 4%? That's alot of folks. 40 million if my math in my head is correct--in the next 5 years...

3 posted on 04/24/2003 7:49:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: John Valentine
Reasonable question. This is not exactly a great source.

Stay safe.
4 posted on 04/24/2003 7:51:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Look at This Hot From the Web:

SARS E2 Spike-protein Phylogeny

From Dr. Robert E. Lee

Enclosed are 2 .pdf file showing SARS E2-spike protein in a phylogeny with 12 other coronaviruses. The viruses in the phylogeny include:

VGL2_CVBF E2 glycoprotein precursor (Spike glycoprotein) (Peplomer protein) [Contains: Spike protein S1 (90B); Spike protein S2 (90A)]

S44241 surface protein - human coronavirus

AAF25499.1 spike glycoprotein [bovine coronavirus]

AAL80031.1 spike glycoprotein [porcine hemagglutinating encephalomyelitis virus]

AAB30950.1 S=viral surface peplomer {monoclonal antibody resistant} [murine hepatitis virus MHV, Wb 1, MAR 11F/1, Peptide Mutant, 1235 aa]

VGL2_CVMJH E2 glycoprotein precursor (Spike glycoprotein) (Peplomer protein) [Contains: Spike protein S1 (90B); Spike protein S2 (90A)]

AAF97738.1 spike protein [rat sialodacryoadenitis coronavirus]

NP_828851.1 putative E2 glycoprotein precursor; putative spike glycoprotein [SARS coronavirus]

S37664 peplomeric polyprotein precursor - avian infectious bronchitis virus (strain D1466) (fragment)

AAO34396.1 spike glycoprotein [Avian infectious bronchitis virus]

S41453 spike protein - canine coronavirus

AAA46905.1 S protein [Porcine respiratory coronavirus]

BAC05493.1 peplomer protein [feline infectious peritonitis virus]

You will notice in the pictures (the phylogenies) that SARS E2 protein is not like any other animals' E2 spike protein. It is not like the other human spike protein compared either. It is its own "branch" on the coronavirus tree. SARS E2 spike protein appears related to the avian, dog, cat, pig, and rat coronavirus E2 spike proteins but is not, apparently, derived from any of these. The common ancestor of the SARS E2 spike protein also gave rise to the rat sialodacryoadenitis coronavirus spike protein. It would appear that SARS E2 spike protein and the avian infectious bronchitis viruses and feline infectious peritonitis virus and canine cornavirus as well as the porcine respiratory virus were derived from a common ancestor.

That common ancestor... whatever it is/was... also gave birth to bovine coronavirus and murine hepatitis virus.

The common ancestor of the common ancestor virus (the grandparent, if you will)... whatever that one is/was, also seems to have given birth to porcine hemagglutinating encephalomyelitis virus.

That SARS E2 spike protein does not show a closer relatedness to the other human coronavirus spike protein is really surprising. SARS seems to be a real mixture of several different animal coronaviruses -- bird, dog, cat, pig, rat... and is not really closely related to other human coronaviruses.

But it is infecting humans... and shows no really close relationship to any other known human coronaviruses. It would appear that the disease SARS would show itself in serious bronchitis, peritonitis, and, perhaps, encephalomyelitis.

I selected the SARS E2 spike protein for this analysis as it is this spike protein that allows the virus to dock with cells and initiate infection. It is my thought that SARS is an FcgammaR agent as are some others of the coronavirus family. It is important that this be determined as it has direct bearing on what type of immunology is occurring in SARS. If SARS is an FcgammaR agent then it is likely possible that it is provoking an intense hyperimmune reaction in some people that would destroy the surfactin in their lungs and cause hypoxia.

Ergo ... looking like a virus cocktail (i.e. man-made)

5 posted on 04/24/2003 7:52:17 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: ex-Texan
You lost me on a lot of this, but your last sentence seems to indicate that you obviously think this is a man-made something-or-other that got away. May I ask you credentials, please.
6 posted on 04/24/2003 7:57:52 PM PDT by ImpotentRage
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To: ex-Texan
Dr. Robert E. Lee? Okay...
7 posted on 04/24/2003 8:05:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: ex-Texan
DO YOU KNOW IF THE U.S. IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE CHILDREN ARE IMMUNIZED AGAINST MEASELS AND MUMPS ...??

If so, could this be the reason SARS is not breaking out in the USA.
9 posted on 04/24/2003 8:15:22 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
How many are they saying die from it? 4%? That's alot of folks.

On Fox News today one of the Doctor's said that in China, the death rate is 10% and perhaps higher. At 4% it's 1 in every 25 people. The last stats I had it was 5.3%! That's better than 1 in 20.
10 posted on 04/24/2003 8:38:22 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: CyberAnt
If so, could this be the reason SARS is not breaking out in the USA.

Correction: As of last week there were 100 cases of Sars. This week there are 203. It's here and apparently spreading. The CDC has a breakdown of cases by state. I think the address is CDC.gov
11 posted on 04/24/2003 8:42:19 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
I haven't heard a thing about this on TV - weird ...??
12 posted on 04/24/2003 8:47:22 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Those are suspected cases. The probable number of cases in the US (as of 4/23/03) was 37 according to the WHO and 39 according to the CDC.

The case counts are available:
by state (CDC)
by country (WHO)

13 posted on 04/24/2003 8:51:24 PM PDT by heleny
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To: ex-Texan
SARS BUG DEADLIER THAN AIDS SAYS DOCTOR

Some groups won't like that.

14 posted on 04/24/2003 8:59:12 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Any person with AIDS who gets SARS is probably dead. They will not like that either.

'Natural selection' at work -- and they will really hate me for saying that.

15 posted on 04/24/2003 9:09:20 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; ex-Texan
So it appears to be doubling in the span of a week. I was wondering how fast it's spreading in this country.
16 posted on 04/24/2003 9:10:54 PM PDT by DBtoo
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
They said it was 10% only in the infected area, with 1 billion chinese that would be 100 million.
17 posted on 04/24/2003 9:21:20 PM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: ex-Texan
Very interesting research but by "Robert E. Lee"? Sounds like a certain General from the American Revolution. The virus is rather revolutionary I must admit.
18 posted on 04/24/2003 9:31:08 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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