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Galloway reminds me of something (SAYS FORMER KGB AGENT)
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | April 27, 2003 | Oleg Gordievsky

Posted on 04/26/2003 4:13:29 PM PDT by MadIvan

When I read the documents in The Daily Telegraph which appear to show the Iraqi Intelligence Services discussing payments to George Galloway, I experienced a strange sense of deja vu. I worked for the KGB in a number of Western countries, ending up in Britain as acting head of the KGB's London station. I had responsibility for a group of British agents, including "agents of influence": men we paid to write articles, give speeches, and make television appearances which supported some specific aspect of Soviet foreign policy. I have no knowledge of Mr Galloway, and don't know whether or not he took money from the Iraqis - but he certainly said and wrote things that must have delighted the Iraqi intelligence service.

He insists that he has never taken any money, and indeed that he has never even knowingly met an Iraqi intelligence officer. All the same, the musings about him in the Iraqi intelligence documents reminded me of the way the KGB talked about its British agents. An agent of influence is not a spy. He is someone who works as a propagandist.

A British MP is entitled to write what he likes: he can visit the countries he chooses to, and to speak to their leaders. Everything can be out in the open - everything, that is, except the acceptance of money from a foreign power. That is what has to be kept secret, and that is what both sides - intelligence service and their agent - are most worried about becoming public knowledge. In my experience, however, that worry never stopped money from being paid or accepted. Some British agents always seemed to want money. We always paid in cash, to ease any worries about discovery.

Concerns about corruption were even easier to soothe. As Richard Gott, the Guardian journalist who "took red gold" said following his exposure, it wasn't corruption: it was just "expenses".

We used to give our "agents of influence" tips on what to say in their articles and speeches. This was very much appreciated, because, for the agents, it was a free research service. It is astonishing how easy it is to flatter the vanity of some people: you furnish them with all the material they need, and sometimes even with whole pages which they just copy out - and they genuinely believe you when you tell them how brilliant, how original, how fascinating the article they have written is. It becomes easy to draw them into a closer relationship: they get addicted to the praise.

I have no idea whether this is what happened to Mr Galloway, but in the KGB, we often used to dangle the prospect of a meeting with senior Soviet officials or KGB bosses such as Yuri Andropov in front of our agents: "It's in recognition of the extraordinary work you have done," we used to say. "The most important people in my country have recognised it!" That worked wonders in inspiring our agents.

I am sure that the Iraqi intelligence service, which took its inspiration from the KGB, would have used the same trick on whatever foreign agents it actually had working for it. I don't know if Mr Galloway was one of them. But he landed a meeting with Saddam Hussein. Of course, that may have happened simply because The Great Leader had come to recognise in Mr Galloway a British politician who had independently come to share all his marvellous ideas.

Is it likely that - as some have claimed - officers in the Iraqi intelligence service could have concocted the scheme of payments in the documents, keeping the whole lot for themselves, and not giving a penny to Mr Galloway? If my experience in the KGB is anything to go by, it is not. Although KGB officers themselves occasionally took a cut of any sum they gave either to an agent or to an organisation, it was never more than 10 or 15 per cent. That was dangerous enough. Any Iraqi intelligence officer who stole all the money for himself would surely risk being fed head first into a shredding machine.

When I was in the KGB, we would have loved to have found a politician like Mr Galloway. Here is a man who, during a war, calls his own leader a "wolf" and tells the soldiers on his own side not to fight. Whether or not he was working for them, the Iraqis will have drastically over-estimated Mr Galloway's importance - just as the KGB would have done. They will have thought that because he is an MP, and a member of the "ruling party", he must have some influence over the centre of power. In fact, of course, he has none. Mr Galloway is a peripheral figure. But if the documents are genuine, then it is a sign of how completely Iraqi intelligence misunderstood British society that they - allegedly - thought it was worth paying him several hundred thousand pounds a year.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blair; galloway; georgegalloway; iraq; kgb; saddam; turass; uk; war
Hmmmmmm.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/26/2003 4:13:30 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: knews_hound; faithincowboys; hillary's_fat_a**; redbaiter; MizSterious; Krodg; hoosiermama; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 04/26/2003 4:13:50 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Mr Galloway should join Kim Philby, Guy Burgess & Don McLean. Dirt nap time.
3 posted on 04/26/2003 4:21:55 PM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: MadIvan
But if the documents are genuine, then it is a sign of how completely Iraqi intelligence misunderstood British society that they - allegedly - thought it was worth paying him several hundred thousand pounds a year.

It's actually very cheap, much less than the cost of an obsolete tank that got used for target practice by Coalition forces

It becomes really worthwhile if you can buy a bunch of them at this price. It doesn't take many to sway how legislation goes

4 posted on 04/26/2003 4:23:06 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: MadIvan
Any Iraqi intelligence officer who stole all the money for himself would surely risk being fed head first into a shredding machine.

But only after his kiddies were shot in front of him. It is inconceivable that a Saddamite agent would take such risks.

By the way, Galloway is a bit more important than the author here thinks. True, he has no influence with Blair. But isn't Galloway the number one favorite MP of Britain's hard left? John Malkovich, in his who-I-want-to-shoot remark, didn't just pick Galloway at random.

5 posted on 04/26/2003 4:26:17 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: MadIvan
Any guesses as to the American version of "Galloway?"
6 posted on 04/26/2003 4:31:29 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: MadIvan
Galloway : I think that he (Saddam) is stable, rational, logical, knows that we stand on the brink of something terrible, would like to avoid it, and therefore is a man that we can I can do business with.''
7 posted on 04/26/2003 4:32:46 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: zerosix
Mr Galloway has elicited 'unusual support' for his campaign in recent years - such as Scott Ritter? ;-)
8 posted on 04/26/2003 4:40:31 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: zerosix
Any guesses as to the American version of "Galloway?"

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

Q. Is it more likely that the FBI was dispatched last week to Baghdad to look for:

1. looted clay tablets and pottery from the Baghdad Museum, or

2. documentation on American politicians who were on the take like Galloway was, with the "Search for looted historical items" as their cover story, so that the guilty won't have a chance to flee to countries with which we do NOT have extradition treaties?

9 posted on 04/26/2003 4:46:21 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: Steve Eisenberg; Angelus Errare
LOL! Holy crap! That was Galloway who he said he wanted to shoot?
10 posted on 04/26/2003 4:46:30 PM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in '08.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
ping
11 posted on 04/26/2003 5:22:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: zerosix
Any guesses as to the American version of "Galloway?"

Scott Ritter is already at the top of the list. But who else? We can start with a list of people who visited Baghdad in the last 12 years. Although I'm not familiar with their politics, we can start with the Democrat congressmen who were there just before the war started.

Then we can walk through the list of celebrities who have visited Iraq, or who have spoken out against the war, ones like Sean Penn and Tim Robbins.

People who continued to speak out against the war after the fighting started are prime candidates.

12 posted on 04/26/2003 5:27:39 PM PDT by risk
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To: zerosix
McDermott.
13 posted on 04/26/2003 5:38:05 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: zerosix
Daschle? Pelosi? Who was louder?
14 posted on 04/26/2003 5:53:28 PM PDT by abclily
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To: MadIvan
Sobering how easy it was (is!) to get enemy politicians/writers/columnists to work against their own country.

But then again, the international socialist movement (and ALLL of its members in the US/UK/EU/USSR) have NO country except international socialism.
15 posted on 04/26/2003 5:59:18 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I support FR monthly; and ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
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To: pbear8; MadIvan
Who was the flamboyantly homosexual Labour MP, Tom something or other, who turned out to have been on the take from the KGB? He had long written a popular society column under the pen name something Hickey. (The column is mentioned in Hitchcock's remake of The Man Who Knew Too Much.)
16 posted on 04/26/2003 6:00:59 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: abclily
Daschle? Pelosi? Who was louder?

And how about Dianne Feinstein, who wanted us to "wait even longer" to invade Iraq, even as early as the beginning of this year? She's criticized by the left in California for supporting the war, but it was in the least enthusiastic terms possible.

Moreover, there's this condemnation of using tactical nukes in Asia. How's that for tipping our hand?

17 posted on 04/26/2003 6:09:28 PM PDT by risk
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To: MadIvan
Any Iraqi intelligence officer who stole all the money for himself would surely risk being fed head first into a shredding machine.

Actually, it was feet first, so witnesses could hear their screams.

18 posted on 04/26/2003 6:12:41 PM PDT by pettifogger
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To: Green Knight
LOL! Holy crap! That was Galloway who he said he wanted to shoot?

Yep. And it was before any of these disclosures. The other fellow Malkovich mentioned was Robert Fisk, a far left reporter for the Guardian/Observer who once indicated approval after an Arab mob beat him up for being a westerner.

19 posted on 04/26/2003 6:14:29 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: risk; zerosix
People who continued to speak out against the war after the fighting started are prime candidates.

Yea, but the equivalent would have to be a Democratic congressman who:

a. Is a household name

b. Said that the day the USSR died was the sadest of his life

Fortunately, we don't quite have any equivalent traitor.

20 posted on 04/26/2003 6:18:09 PM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: aristeides; MadIvan
Oooh, good question. I only remember that Jeremy Something was gay and committed suicide. What was his name?
21 posted on 04/26/2003 6:28:01 PM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: pbear8
Jeremy Thorpe, leader of the Liberal Party. My memory is not complete on this but I don't think he killed himself.

Regards, Ivan

22 posted on 04/26/2003 6:29:02 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: aristeides
Christ, there were a lot of flamboyant homosexuals on the take from the KGB during the 1960's. I'll have a think about it.

Regards, Ivan

23 posted on 04/26/2003 6:30:17 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: pbear8; MadIvan
I did a bit of searching on the Web. It was Tom Driberg, who wrote the William Hickey column.
24 posted on 04/26/2003 6:32:19 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: MadIvan
Western rot. There is nothing inside any western politician. Politicians are addicted to eating, drinking, copulation, evacuation and snoring! That is their life. That is what they are. That is what they do.
25 posted on 04/26/2003 6:34:28 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: aristeides
You're right. I had blotted out Driberg from my memory for some reason.

Regards, Ivan

26 posted on 04/26/2003 6:36:39 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: pbear8; MadIvan
Jeremy Thorpe is apparently still alive. Here's a link to a picture of him at the recent memorial service for Roy Jenkins (whose seat George Galloway took in 1987).

He was acquitted many years ago of conspiring to murder Norman Scott, the young man with whom he had been sexually involved.

27 posted on 04/26/2003 6:39:37 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides; MadIvan
He's not dead yet! I must have had a false memory implanted by a Tory politician.

I remembered some scandal however. Conspiracy to murder, good work Jeremy.

28 posted on 04/26/2003 7:49:52 PM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: MadIvan
Hey Ivan I just wonder does Galloway kinda know Saddam back in da day andd Vlad current KGB agent in Charge YOU KNOW PUTIN
29 posted on 04/26/2003 8:12:09 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: MadIvan
They didn't come up with the term "homointern" from nothing.
30 posted on 04/26/2003 11:00:48 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: William McKinley
Patty Murray.

I hope they keep this stuff out of the headlines until about July of 2004. Then hit the RATs with everything even stuff on their candidate if possible.
31 posted on 04/26/2003 11:02:20 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: pbear8
Paging Scott Ritter.
32 posted on 04/26/2003 11:08:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: MadIvan
Fisk is a treacherous treasonous snake that shouldn't even be allowed within our borders. He was on bulletin boards pre-September 11th fomenting hatred of the USA among Muslims. He's on someone's payroll-of that I have no doubt.
33 posted on 04/27/2003 6:10:43 AM PDT by DianaN (Eternal Freedom)
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To: MadIvan
An agent of influence is not a spy. He is someone who works as a propagandist.

Hmmmm. Makes me wonder why/how Dandy Dan Rather got that interview w/Hussein (or one of his doubles).

34 posted on 04/27/2003 6:34:15 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: aristeides
Tom Driberg. Revolting character, got a pass from the media for years. Was associated with Blunt, Burgess etc.
35 posted on 04/27/2003 6:41:53 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: MadIvan
Even though he may have had little or no influence in the British government, he would have vast influence on the American press, which dotes on any whiff of anti-americanism spoken in a foreign country.
36 posted on 04/27/2003 6:42:41 AM PDT by js1138
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To: MadIvan
I wonder if Galloway remembers what happen to Lord Haw Haw after WW2???
37 posted on 04/27/2003 6:45:34 AM PDT by mware
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To: longshadow
documentation on American politicians who were on the take like Galloway was, with the "Search for looted historical items" as their cover story,

Since it looks like an inside job at the museum, maybe they will find conections that the artifacts were meant to be a "retirement fund" for those same politicians. Who knows where this will go.

38 posted on 04/27/2003 6:47:48 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: aristeides
Tom Driberg
39 posted on 04/27/2003 7:36:17 AM PDT by mark_interrupted
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