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1 posted on 04/26/2003 5:22:02 PM PDT by Brandon
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The American military is now the strongest the world has ever known, both in absolute terms and relative to other nations; stronger than the Wehrmacht in 1940, stronger than the legions at the height of Roman power. For years to come, no other nation is likely even to try to rival American might.

This makes me very nervous. Remember "victory disease?" I hope the folks in charge of worrying about things think the same way.

Confidence in one's abilities is a good thing- overconfidence is a killer.

39 posted on 04/26/2003 6:59:53 PM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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While the Clinton's and Albright's of this world bemoan the fact that we are the only 'superpower'...
42 posted on 04/26/2003 7:06:01 PM PDT by Guillermo (Sic 'em!)
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Imagine if we had these capabilities during World War Two. We would have defeated Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in about a week or so.
52 posted on 04/26/2003 7:25:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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The future threat is asymmetric, pure and simple.

Fortunately, rogue states don't have the resources to mount effective asymmetric measures. The best they can do is get a few nukes so they'll make us think twice about invading them.
55 posted on 04/26/2003 7:53:13 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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North Korea now stares into the barrel of the strongest military ever assembled, and yet may be able to defy the United States, owing to nuclear deterrence. As the global arms race ends with the United States so far ahead no other nation even tries to be America's rival, the result may be a world in which Washington has historically unparalleled power, but often cannot use it.

NK has learned a lesson from Iraq, but it's not the lesson we hoped to teach it. In their view, Iraq was attacked exactly because it had too little WMD capability and had staked its reputation on having no WMD at all. That's why NK acts differently: They're totally upfront about their nuclear capabilities (even bluffing when necessary) and won't repent for anything. As a result, not only have they forced us to talk to them, they're making us do it largely on their terms.

57 posted on 04/26/2003 8:06:59 PM PDT by Filibuster_60
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Bump...
61 posted on 04/26/2003 8:40:45 PM PDT by redhead (Les Français sont des singes de capitulation qui mangent du fromage.)
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My wife was watching all this war wizard stuff on TV and she pointed out something that needs adding. Due to the imbedded reporters we saw first hand ... the standard by which our troops need be judged has gone outa site. These people are our best and brightest. It gives great pride to see these professional intelligent soldiers the US has to draw from to defend our country. I am proud to be represented by these people beyond measure.

Our most feared weapon, the men and women who serve.

snooker
63 posted on 04/26/2003 8:47:29 PM PDT by snooker
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This article is mistaken.

NATO, France, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, and Japan all have AWACS aircraft. We sold the aircraft to them.

Many other nations also have air refueling capability. We have been selling surplus KC-135 tankers to lots of countries.
64 posted on 04/26/2003 8:55:33 PM PDT by Chewbacca (My life is a Dilbert cartoon.)
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Paradoxically, the runaway American victory in the conventional arms race might inspire a new round of proliferation of atomic weapons.

I'll be darned. It's so inspirational it inspired North Korea to join in proliferation before the ink was even dry on Jimmy and Slick Willy's nukes & food deal with North Korea in 1994, well before the inspirational American victory in Iraq. And of course there was Iraq's and Brazil's efforts to join the proliferation game in the 80s, all well before our inspirational victory in Iraq.

Now THAT's not just inspirational, it is PREEMPTIVELY inspirational.

70 posted on 04/26/2003 9:15:48 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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"With the influx of diversity I don't think we are going to be able to build up the internal strength to continue fighting the horrors of the world much longer." - B4Ranch

Just a little "sky is falling" reminder to help rain on your pity parade.

74 posted on 04/26/2003 9:29:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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All that and DeathStar is still under construction. No one in this galaxy can resist our armed might even now.
75 posted on 04/26/2003 9:36:55 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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For the extent of American military superiority has become almost impossible to overstate. The United States sent five of its nine supercarrier battle groups to the region for the Iraq assault. A tenth Nimitz-class supercarrier is under construction. No other nation possesses so much as one supercarrier, let alone nine battle groups ringed by cruisers and guarded by nuclear submarines.

I hate it when so-called newspapers of record cannot get their facts straight. The US now has TWELVE "supercarrier" battlegroups in its Fleet, not NINE. They forget the three conventionally powered oil-burners the Kitty Hawk, the Constellation, and the Kennedy. The Nimitz class nuclear powered carriers are not the only carrier battle groups in the US Navy.

Carrier                 Commissioning Date
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Oil-Burners
CV   63  Kitty Hawk            1961
CV   64  Constellation         1961
CV   67  John F. Kennedy       1968

Nukes
CVN  65  Enterprise            1961
CVN  68  Nimitz                1975
CVN  69  Dwight D. Eisenhower  1977
CVN  70  Carl Vinson           1982
CVN  71  Theodore Roosevelt    1986
CVN  72  Abraham Lincoln       1989
CVN  73  George Washington     1992
CVN  74  John C. Stennis       1995
CVN  75  Harry S Truman        1998

Future Nukes
CVN  76  Ronald Reagan         2003
CVN  77  George H. W. Bush     2008

Point being, the US Navy sent five of its twelve carrier battle groups to the Gulf War II. THe Constellation (CV-64) retires after its last war cruise...

dvwjr

82 posted on 04/26/2003 11:55:37 PM PDT by dvwjr
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I'll be the first to say that we have an awe inspiring military. We spend .8% of Gross World Product on our miltary. That is greater than the GDP of many countries.

However, the author makes some mistakes and questionable assumptions.

As far as the ability to project force over long distances, no country can match us. The entire EU could not match us. However, the ability traverse the oceans is not absolute. Even if there will never be another carrier on carrier battle like Midway, there are other threats.
The English have some very nice SSN (the Trafalgars and new Astute class). The Russian Akula-IIs and Oscar-II are a threat (at least utill the Soviet era low-orbit satelite network burns up). Many countries have purchased good conventional submarines from the Germans, Dutch, Swedes, English,French, and Russians. The Russian Kilos purchased by Iran and China aren't going away any time soon. These are a threat to us in the shallow areas near these coasts. Uneven sea beds, shifting currents, and multiple thermal layers create bad accoustics for hunting submarines. As long as the Kilos are on battery power, they are hard to detect. While the Kilos might be constrained in that they too are in a fog of poor accoustics and are limited by battery power, they have some advantages. An america task group operating near Iran or China would be continuosly tracked by enemy recon and radar. The sub commanders could place their subs in front of a US carrier group and wait a few hours to strike.

Similarly, operating near enemy coasts puts our CNBG's at risk to enemy attack. As i noted before, our carriers would be painted by radar, unless we took these out. Iran and China have strike fighters and bomber carrying anti-shipping missles. The Chinese Silkworm may not be a real threat, but the Russian K-35 or Sunburns are.

85 posted on 04/28/2003 4:28:03 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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Contrary to the author's assertion, the US is not the only power with stealthy jets. The Saab Grippen, Eurofighter Typhoon, and Chinese J/F-10 both have some stealthy characteristics. The Russian Sukhoi bureau is working on a stealthy fighter. The US plans to sell the F-35 to a number of countries.

While no other country has the J-STARS, a lot countries have AWACS or similar airborne C4I or AEW planes. The US has sold the E-2 and/or E-3 to every member of NATO, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Taiwan. The Russians developed their own systems based on the IL-76 and their indiginous radars. These have been sold to China and North Korea.

No other nation has air-to-air missiles or air-to-ground smart munitions of the accuracy, or numbers, of the United States.
Many of our allies produce these weaposn for us and themselves.
Based on unclassified paper specs, I would take the Russian A-11 Archer over our AIM-9. the AA-12 looks like an AMRAAM, so I wouldn't discount it.

the Russian Klub cruise missle is supposed to use GPS. They have Laser guided munitions. They are a few years behind us, not decades.

The Abrams cannon and fire-control system is so extraordinarily accurate that in combat gunners rarely require more than one shot to destroy an enemy tank. No other nation is currently building or planning a comparable tank force. Other governments know this would be pointless, since even if they had advanced tanks, the United States would destroy them from the air.

The British Challanger, German Leopard II, Israeli Merkava, and Russian T-90 are all nice tanks. Iraq had the cheap export T-72's. These lacked the good Russian optical and targeting systems, as well as the Tank lanched anti-missle systems liket he Koronet, which outrange us.

Our forces are advanced, but a smart enemy could cause real problems for us. For starters, they could hit us, isntead of allowing hte US to have operational control.

86 posted on 04/28/2003 5:04:28 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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Anybody out there play too much RISK as a kid?

The current situation IMHO is like the last move of the game when the victor marches around the entire globe in an unstoppable wave taking out each weakened opponent as he goes until der Welt is finally his.

Bwah-ha-ha-ha!

87 posted on 04/28/2003 5:09:58 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (.......................)
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