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West now thinks Russia was right about terror link
The Charlotte Observer ^ | Apr. 27, 2003 | SHARON LAFRANIERE

Posted on 04/27/2003 8:00:54 AM PDT by miltonim

West now thinks Russia was right about terror link

Money from al-Qaida, others goes to Chechnya

KARAMAKHI, Russia -Russian officials complained for years, to an often-skeptical West, that their war against rebels in Chechnya was a battle against terrorism.

Some terrorism experts now say the West might have erred by dismissing Russia's claims for so long.

"Chechnya and the Pankisi Gorge in Georgia partially replaced Afghanistan as a center for terrorist training," said Rohan Gunaratna, a terrorism expert and the author of "Inside al-Qaida."

"The initial wave of terrorists who are now coming to Europe trained in Chechnya or Algeria," he said.

U.S. officials say they are fighting the problem now.

They say the United States has helped cut off outside support of the Chechen conflict by routing the Taliban in Afghanistan, helping drive Islamic fighters from the nearby Fergana Valley in Uzbekistan and forcing Georgia to police the Pankisi Gorge on the Chechen border.

After denying for years that the valley was a rebel sanctuary, Georgian officials now say that until last summer, it was home to 800 rebels, including 80 to 100 Arabs receiving funds from al-Qaida.

Col. Ilya Shabalkin, a spokesman for Russian forces in Chechnya, said Arabs still make up about one-fifth of Chechnya's roughly 1,000 active armed militants.

"The Arabs are the specialists, they are the experts in mines and communications," Shabalkin said. He identified their leader as Abu Walid, a Saudi who showed up in Chechnya in the late 1990s.

Russian intelligence officials say he is just one of hundreds of Arab radicals whose fervor and funds fueled fighting that has cost the lives of more than 4,500 Russian soldiers over the past 3 1/2 years. In addition, the fighting has killed thousands of rebels, in addition to many civilians.

Until the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States, the Russian argument got little hearing in the West, where officials suspected Russia was trying to deflect criticism of human rights abuses by Russian troops.

But in recent months, U.S. officials increasingly are accepting Russia's view.

"Obviously, there is still a strong internal impulse behind the Chechen insurgency," a senior U.S. diplomat said. "But it has become commingled with the broader international agenda of the Arab fighters."

In the Russian government's view, Chechnya's war is nothing more or less than a terrorist enterprise, paid by a combination of al-Qaida money and fraudulent charitable donations. The Russians say some 40 organizations masquerading as charities in the Middle East, Europe and elsewhere are supporting the rebels.

The flow of funds has diminished since U.S. and Russian intelligence began jointly clamping down on terrorist financing after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Even so, the Russians say, $500,000 to $1 million a month still reaches Chechnya, delivered in small sums by couriers who travel Georgia's rugged mountain paths.

One source is a Saudi charity, al Haramain, according to Russia's Federal Security Service.

In an internal memo provided by the agency, the FSB accused the charity of wiring $1 million to Chechen rebels in 1999 and of arranging to buy 500 heavy weapons for them from Taliban units.

The memo quotes what it calls messages exchanged between Arab commanders in Chechnya and al Haramain's director in Saudi Arabia.

Russia forced al Haramain to close its offices in Georgia and neighboring Azerbaijan in 2001, but its workers dispersed to similar groups that continue to work freely in Azerbaijan, said Sergei Ignatchenko, an FSB spokesman.

A year ago, the United States and Saudi Arabia closed al Haramain branches in Somalia and Bosnia. U.S. officials said those offices used charitable donations to finance terrorist activities.

Al Haramain says it distributed blankets, clothing and food in Chechnya but stopped its work there 14 months ago.

"We do not have any relationship with any terrorist activities," said Shaykh Aqeel Aqeel, the charity's director. "We work under the supervision of the Saudi government."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: algeria; alqaeda; alqaedarussia; alqaida; balkans; bosnia; caucasus; caucasuslist; chechnya; fsb; georgia; insidealqaida; russia; somalia; terror; trainingcamps

1 posted on 04/27/2003 8:00:54 AM PDT by miltonim
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To: miltonim
this will become the fissure that seperates Pooty Poot from the old soviets with the Russian majority taking Pooty Poots side...Dubya will ride in and gravitas
the moment and an ally will be born. IMO it was timed and
by design
2 posted on 04/27/2003 8:04:08 AM PDT by cars for sale
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To: *Caucasus_List
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3 posted on 04/27/2003 8:07:28 AM PDT by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: miltonim
"We do not have any relationship with any terrorist activities." said Shaykh Aqeel Aqeel.


Which really means: "We will kill all infidels, until every knee bows before Allah!"


...as far as I'm concerned, I would never believe a freakin' word that ever came out of somebody's mouth that had the word "Shaykh" in front of their name.
4 posted on 04/27/2003 8:29:58 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: dagoofyfoot
"We do not have any relationship with any terrorist activities." said Shaykh Aqeel Aqeel.

Which really means: "We will kill all infidels, until every knee bows before Allah!"

...as far as I'm concerned, I would never believe a freakin' word that ever came out of somebody's mouth that had the word "Shaykh" in front of their name.
...

Or whose last name sounds like "Ikill, Ikill"?!
5 posted on 04/27/2003 8:55:35 AM PDT by miltonim
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I find it very hard to be sympathetic to the Rusians. A lot of folks don't know it, but Germany had a terrible time during the Carter administration with terrorism. Much of it was from disgruntled eurotrash youth, but they got their training in places like the ME, and often had ME handlers and trainers.

So, Russians all unhappy cos they have bandits and terrorists next door?

Tough

Tia

6 posted on 04/27/2003 8:58:40 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: miltonim
Or whose last name sounds like "Ikill,Ikill"?!


Good catch! I din't even notice that one. LOL!
7 posted on 04/27/2003 9:25:38 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: miltonim
Russia should take America's example and attack and replace the Shevi government in terrorist sponsor and NATO applicant Georgia. India needs to do the same to Pakistan. Ethiopia to Eritria and Sudan and Somalia. Isreal to Egypt, Jordan, Syria. Greece/Bulgaria/Romania/Serbia to KLA/Albania/Bosnia. India to Sri Lanka.
8 posted on 04/28/2003 6:54:46 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: tiamat
You're either with West or with Terrorists.
9 posted on 04/28/2003 6:55:56 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: miltonim
well, duh
10 posted on 04/28/2003 6:58:00 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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