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To: BeforeISleep
There are lots of ways to murder people than to kill them.

The point I am making is not that this guy is innocent, but there is a reason behind what he did, and it is very likely that the woman contributed to it.

Take that as you may. I know that women often incite these problems by their own actions. And men often respond because their rights have been stripped, they have been attacked by our leftist womenized socity, and they feel they have no recourse.

Frankly, I think its terrible how women are allowed to get away with anything, as long as its technically not physically violent.



33 posted on 04/27/2003 2:12:11 PM PDT by FirstTomato (Always remember you are unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: FirstTomato
The point I am making is not that this guy is innocent, but there is a reason behind what he did, and it is very likely that the woman contributed to it

Instead of looking at the facts (the fact being that he shot this woman in front of their children) you're making excuses for him. He meant to kill her, he killed himself. He was not the victim, he was the person who attempted murder. Make all the excuses you want, if it makes you "feel" better...It still won't make it so...
38 posted on 04/27/2003 2:18:28 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: FirstTomato
I don't believe you said what you did. NO ONE IS TO BLAME WHEN THEY ARE MURDERED
This guys wacko. there are a lot of provacation going on by men and woman and they don't kill thier spouse or significant other because they are good at pushing Buttons.
41 posted on 04/27/2003 2:19:42 PM PDT by Walnut
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To: FirstTomato
The point I am making is not that this guy is innocent, but there is a reason behind what he did, and it is very likely that the woman contributed to it.

I'm racking my brain trying to come up with something a woman can do that would justify shooting her to death in a parking lot with her children nearby.

Nope. You can stretch and contort all you like, but blaming the victim here isn't going to cut it. It doesn't matter what she did, she didn't deserve to be murdered in front of her children, and we can't ask the husband what she did, now can we, because the wussy killed himself and orphaned his children.

50 posted on 04/27/2003 2:26:01 PM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: FirstTomato
I know that women often incite these problems by their own actions.

Only by staying after the first abuse incident. A co-worker was telling me about the sad case of an emotionally abused woman in her family ---the husband criticizes her constantly and in front of others ---usually by insulting her on her weight, calling her fat, stupid, and lazy ---but he doesn't leave her. She cries but eats to comfort herself, she gets fatter and lazier --maybe to punish him back ---but she doesn't leave either. There seems to be no love whatsoever between them ---and when they ask her why she doesn't just leave him, she says she's afraid at her weight, she'd never find another husband.

52 posted on 04/27/2003 2:26:17 PM PDT by FITZ
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