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Maher Admits Naivete, Thought "Right to Privacy" in Constitution (Coulter)
MRC ^ | 10:20am EDT, Monday April 28, 2003 | BrentBaker

Posted on 04/28/2003 8:19:50 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

The controversy last week over Senator Rick Santorum's remarks about the slippery slope of the Supreme Court finding a right to any kind of consensual sex based on a "right to privacy" in the penumbra of the Constitution, has had one benefit: A well- known liberal commentator on political issues has conceded his naivete about which rights are in the Constitution.

On Friday night's Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO, Maher admitted: "This has been a learning experience for me. I also thought that privacy was something we were granted in the Constitution. I have learned from this when in fact the word privacy does not appear in the Constitution."

Maher's admission of his naivete came after columnist/author Ann Coulter observed on the April 25 program: "I think what he said was completely defensible and I think it's an important point, which is, you know, the Constitution describes a limited form of government and then there's a Bill of Rights with very few rights. And I think that Americans should start to recognize there are a lot of good things that aren't constitutional rights." Maher then conceded: "You know what, this has been a learning experience for me. I also thought that privacy was something we were granted in the Constitution. I have learned from this when in fact the word privacy does not appear in the Constitution."

You wonder how many journalists share Maher's basic lack of knowledge about the Constitution, a lack of knowledge which may explain much of the bad reporting on the matter.

A right to "privacy" was first broached by the Supreme Court in its 1965 Griswold v Connecticut decision overturning a state ban on birth control and solidified in the majority's Roe v Wade discovery of a privacy right in the "penumbra" of the Constitution in order to find rationale for overturning state bans on abortion. But it isn't in the Constitution.

On March 28, Maher won the MRC's "Ashamed of the Red, White, and Blue Award" at our "DisHonors Awards: Roasting the Most Outrageously Biased Liberal Reporters of 2002." His winner, from a November 1, 2002 appearance on CNN's Larry King Live:

Maher: "We take pride in being big charity givers. We're in fact dead last among the industrialized nations. We give an infinitesimal amount of our money to people around the world. I think what people around the world would say is it would take so little for this rich country to help and alleviate so much misery and even that is too much for them. We're oblivious to suffering."

King: "And so we are hated because of this?"

Maher: "Yes I think so. I mean, I think, Iraqis, I think, feel that if we drove smaller cars, maybe we wouldn't have to kill them for their oil."

HBO's site for Real Time with Bill Maher, which has aired Friday nights at 11:30pm EDT/PDT: http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/

Starting this Friday, Maher's show will be replaced for ten weeks by On the Record with Bob Costas. But the time slot will still feature left-wing anti-war activists: Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins will be on Costas' first show this Friday.

When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030428.asp


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; costas; coulter; maher; righttoprivacy; santorum
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To: js1138
Exactly. The Constitution says nothing about the right of consenting adults to marry, yet there is no doubt that the right exists.

However, the 4th Amendment guarantees "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures," To me, this means that as long as what you are doing in your house is lawful, the government has no right to investigate or interfere. Any law created specifically or unintentionally to allow the government to get around the 4th would be unconstitutional.
21 posted on 04/28/2003 8:54:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
The $1 doesn't even cover the printing and postage costs. It's a good deal.

Ever notice how it is that eeevil capitalists will provide their political literature for free or at cut rates, whereas whenever you see street socialists with their pamphlets sprawled out on the table before them, they charge for every little piece of paper? What's up with that?

22 posted on 04/28/2003 8:56:20 AM PDT by inquest
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To: fight_truth_decay
I also thought that privacy was something we were granted in the Constitution.

Maybe he'll also realize the Constitution grants us nothing.

23 posted on 04/28/2003 8:57:44 AM PDT by cruiserman
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To: jwalburg
What's the real scoop here. Doesn't the U.S. give out billions in foreign aid? Where can we find figures of this?

The US gives out more foreign aid than the rest of the world combined. Maher is, was, and always will be full of crap. I'll bet the self-righteous little twit doesn't drive a yugo himself.

24 posted on 04/28/2003 8:58:56 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
OK, but where do I look to find the figures on this?
25 posted on 04/28/2003 9:01:23 AM PDT by jwalburg (Knowledge is power; power corrupts.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Wonder how much money little bill gives to charity. Real charity that helps needy people, not organizations that sound good but just exist to help themselves.
26 posted on 04/28/2003 9:02:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (without the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The controversy last week over Senator Rick Santorum's remarks about the slippery slope of the Supreme Court finding a right to any kind of consensual sex based on a "right to privacy" in the penumbra of the Constitution...

A right to "privacy" was first broached by the Supreme Court in its 1965 Griswold v Connecticut decision overturning a state ban on birth control and solidified in the majority's Roe v Wade discovery of a privacy right in the "penumbra" of the Constitution...

Can someone define for me exactly what makes up the "penumbra" of the Constitution?

-PJ

27 posted on 04/28/2003 9:03:18 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
You wonder how many journalists share Maher's basic lack of knowledge about the Constitution,...

Too many "journalists" are willing to share their lack of knowledge about anything and everthing with us.

28 posted on 04/28/2003 9:04:17 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: fight_truth_decay
read later
29 posted on 04/28/2003 9:07:22 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: fight_truth_decay
I also thought that privacy was something we were granted in the Constitution.

Of course the Constitution grants no rights to the people. It explictly protects some rights and implicitly protects others. The closest it comes to explicitly protecting privacy is the 4th Amendment's protection of the "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searchs and seizures". This does not protect "privacy" in a general sense. It certainly doesn't restrict what sorts of behavior can be illegal, nor what sorts of things can be made "contraband". It just means that the government, at all levels, must have a good reason for searching and/or seizing your "stuff". It also means that they search and siezure action must be conducted in a "reasonable" manner.

30 posted on 04/28/2003 9:10:01 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Mike Darancette
Probably because the other airheads didn't know any better.
31 posted on 04/28/2003 9:11:12 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: fight_truth_decay
One point - our rights are not limited to those enumerated in the bill of rights....

In fact at the constitutional convention, many were opposed to a bill of rights on the basis that the government might point to it and attempt to limit rights to those on the list.

So they stuck in a clause specifically to avoid that... the constitution makes plain that the listing is in no way meant to limit or disparage other rights retained by the people.

For Ann Coulter to say "We have a list of very few rights" is the worst fear realized. She's mistaken, and in a big way.
32 posted on 04/28/2003 9:12:05 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"Here is another one for you Maher; neither constitutions nor governments grant rights."

Well, yes and no. It's clear that the philosophy of our Founders was that our Rights are natural.

But as a practical matter, if you live in an autocracy which denies you the basic rights that we enjoy, then it really doesn't matter how "natural" you think those rights are - the government in question has taken away your freedom to exercise those rights in any case. In that sense, our Consitution and the goverment it stipifies "grants" us our Rights. Philosophically, no, but practically, yes. In so far as we have citizens who have been willing to see the Constitution as (correctly) more important than whoever is holding political office at the moment. If you feel "recognizes and respects" a better word than "grants", then that's fine with me. Though practically, it can be a distinction without a difference.

Also, though I agree that "freedom from religion" and "privacy" do not appear in the Constitution, it's also true that the word "Trinity" never appears in the Bible, yet most Christians agree that it is a canonical Truth which is implied.

The argument has always been where does "free exercise" end and "establishment" start? The fact that people disagree about this doesn't mean one is automatically trying to insert something in the Constitution that isn't there. Although with liberals, this is often the case anyway. :)

I simply wish people paid more attention to the 9th and 10th Amendments. Anybody in the Judiciary remember those?

None of this changes the fact that Maher is an idiot who doesn't know his butt from a hole in the ground.

-King
33 posted on 04/28/2003 9:13:30 AM PDT by Kingasaurus
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To: fight_truth_decay
You mean that the Constitution doesn't give us a right to privacy? Wow! Next thing you know, someone's going to say that the phrase "seperation of church and state" isn't in the constitution either!
34 posted on 04/28/2003 9:15:13 AM PDT by birdsman (I used to be a liberal. Then I had kids.)
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To: jwalburg
OK, but where do I look to find the figures on this?

Why bother? He just made up his figures on the spot. It takes liberals two seconds to pull their statistics out of their butts and it takes conservatives two months to mine the truth at the library.

Go for it.

35 posted on 04/28/2003 9:15:23 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Billthedrill
For the politically immature, uncertainty is merely a sign of weakness, and it is more comfortable to be certain than to be right.

Interesting observation but I would also observe that, true to their hypocrisy, these politically immature people insist on uncertainty from their opponents in the form of moral relativism. Although they are certain in their errors they refuse to be nailed down on anything. All is relative.

36 posted on 04/28/2003 9:17:25 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: SarahW
For Ann Coulter to say "We have a list of very few rights" is the worst fear realized. She's mistaken, and in a big way.

More important is the fact that our rights are supposed to be safeguarded by the fact of a limited government. If we had a limited government, the Supreme Court wouldn't be parsing commas to figure out if the feds have the power to ban working toilets.

37 posted on 04/28/2003 9:17:28 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: fight_truth_decay
penumbra (shadow)

Look up the word. It means something even less than "shadow".

39 posted on 04/28/2003 9:22:37 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Political Junkie Too
Can someone define for me exactly what makes up the "penumbra" of the Constitution?

Even though it's great sport to make fun of the term, it really was just a flowery way of saying that the right/protection under consideration is implied by something, or even more than one something, in the Constitution. As someone else mentioned, the 9th amendment, in particular, has a huge penumbra especially in regards to Federal government infringements.

40 posted on 04/28/2003 9:25:22 AM PDT by El Gato
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