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Santorum Crisis Exposes Republican Weakness
The Pro-Family Law Center ^ | 29-Apr-2003 | Scott Lively

Posted on 04/28/2003 2:25:50 PM PDT by Remedy

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To: Right Wing Professor
Beastiality "harms no one"? Good, God, man!
121 posted on 04/28/2003 4:15:25 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
Beastiality "harms no one"? Good, God, man!

Ofergawdsake, read what I posted again. You think I'm for bestiality?

122 posted on 04/28/2003 4:17:42 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
"(Leviticus 18:22) You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman;31 it is a detestable act.32
Are you calling G-d a liar?"

Homosexuals don't have sex with a man as one has sex with a woman. They have sex with a man as they do with a man.

This is a joke right? You're not seriously presenting this as an argument that Lev 18:22 doesn't prohibit homosexuality.

123 posted on 04/28/2003 4:19:11 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Remedy
I have to get some other stuff done. Like Asclepius said to EV, we'll just have to disagree on this one. We probably agree on at least 75% of things.
124 posted on 04/28/2003 4:19:50 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Remedy
Thanks again. A study of history finds the greatest of civilizations were ultimately destroyed from within. Ours will be no acception. In fact I believe we have crossed the Rubicon already as a great civilization.

I am not going to join the argument pro or against homosexual behavior. It seems to be hijacking the authors point.

Engaging the pro-homo behavior crowd in agruing the merits of their rights to engage in the behavior only deflects from the authors point. The GOP will loose it's moral base if it works to attack a fringe minority by legitimizing in any moral sense their behavior and actions.

126 posted on 04/28/2003 4:20:07 PM PDT by ImpBill ("You are either with US or against US!")
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
That's why the line about a purge in the article -- which is what I first commented on -- bothered me so much. Most of the rest I just disagree with. Calls for purges make me feel sick.

They should. This guy sounds like he's calling for a jihad.

127 posted on 04/28/2003 4:21:49 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

That's why the line about a purge in the article -- which is what I first commented on -- bothered me so much. Most of the rest I just disagree with. Calls for purges make me feel sick.

Traditionalists are afraid to speak against homosexuality. Homo advocates are anything but afraid to speak their mind.

128 posted on 04/28/2003 4:22:41 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Jorge
This is a joke right? You're not seriously presenting this as an argument that Lev 18:22 doesn't prohibit homosexuality

I don't know enough Hebrew to say. I will say that, if the original language of the Torah was English and the sentence was phrased that way, there would proabably at least be some discussion of that interpretation.

129 posted on 04/28/2003 4:24:15 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: EternalVigilance
I would say that the public acceptance of homosexual behavior would be more of a sign that civilization had already fallen--ala Romans chapter one.

I would say that the public acceptance of divorce, teenage mothers, and any of the other assorted assaults on the traditional family are a far more destructive force than homosexuality. So if you argue that homosexual conduct should be illegal then what is your next frontier?

130 posted on 04/28/2003 4:24:58 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Remedy
The Rick Santorum controversy has illuminated a serious problem in the Republican Party: its leaders seem woefully ill-prepared to defend the pro-family position on homosexuality.

In a nutshell: Limp-wristed leadership.

131 posted on 04/28/2003 4:31:04 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Remedy
What is needed from Republican leaders is articulate, confident and continual advocacy of the pro-family world view. Without it, we might as well say farewell to Rick Santorum and other defenders of family values, because if things continue as they are, these courageous people will have no place in the future GOP, the Gays' Other Party.

If this guy is claiming we need leaders who support police barging into people's bedrooms to arrest adults for consentual acts of homosexuality or adultery.....then he must want the Republican party voted out of power. Because that is exactly what will happen.

Furthermore, that is what the Santorum controversy is really about...something the author just doesn't seem to get.

132 posted on 04/28/2003 4:38:37 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Right Wing Professor
"With it out of my wallet, my school, and my face, I'll be happy to live and let live."

Well stated. That sums it up for me.

Greg
133 posted on 04/28/2003 5:07:02 PM PDT by crude77
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To: Dolphy
Read Romans chapter one, then we can talk about what I meant by my comment.
134 posted on 04/28/2003 5:16:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Kuksool
"And FReepers wonder why the state GOP in CA can't win statewide elections."

Exactly. Oh well all we can do is fight the good fight for smaller, less-intrusive government. Regardless of what the bedroom police would prefer.

Trace
138 posted on 04/28/2003 7:02:22 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Jorge
If the Republican party is so foolish as to follow the advice in this article they will absolutely become a minority party.

It won't. The Republican Party has a leader for all Americans at its helm, George W. Bush, who would be appalled at the sentiments of some on this thread.

139 posted on 04/28/2003 7:12:00 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: EternalVigilance
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers

From Romans, these are right up there with the sexual sins. But I don't argue your view or your right to live your life in accordance with your views.

140 posted on 04/28/2003 7:48:09 PM PDT by Dolphy
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