[EternalVigilance]

What you see as a moral degredation, I see as neutral, neither moral nor immoral.

Your words, not mine.

[tdadams]

Yes, and your point? I'm neutral on a lot of things - what one eats for dinner, where one takes their vacation, what clothes you might wear. Does that also make me a moral relativist?

There are some who would argue that all of those things involve a moral choice. I disagree. As I disagree with you.

I understand that this is an issue of particular importance to you, but you've said nothing that remotely convinces me of your point.