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Estrada filibuster may galvanize Latino voters
The Detroit News ^ | Tuesday, April 29, 2003 | Ruben Navarette

Posted on 04/29/2003 6:37:01 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

After several failed attempts by Senate Republicans to break a Democratic filibuster, it's starting to look as if Miguel Estrada may never make it to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. The controversial Bush nominee may have to settle for the strangest of consolation prizes: his name plastered on bumper stickers in the 2004 election.


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1 posted on 04/29/2003 6:37:02 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
While part of me hates seeing the National GOP engaging in racial politics I would dearly love to see the democrats hoist by their own petard.
2 posted on 04/29/2003 6:41:22 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Every election is important.

'04 is shaping up to be a real brass-knuckles affair.


3 posted on 04/29/2003 6:43:17 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Besides, whom do Democrats think they're kidding? They were against Estrada's nomination from the moment they realized they couldn't control him, intimidate him or take credit for his success. After all, what fun is it for liberals to put minorities in powerful positions if doing so doesn't leave the benefactors feeling somehow empowered? BINGO!
4 posted on 04/29/2003 6:45:16 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Bush has a lot more in store for the anti-Catholic, anti-Hispanic bigots of the DNC.

No devout Roman Catholic Hispanic will EVER be allowed by the democrats to run for national office or be appointed to a judgeship.

I cannot wait to see what bombs Dubya plans to drop.

5 posted on 04/29/2003 6:46:17 AM PDT by friendly
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To: BOBTHENAILER
After several failed attempts by Senate Republicans to break a Democratic filibuster, it's starting to look as if Miguel Estrada may never make it to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

The controversial Bush nominee may have to settle for the strangest of consolation prizes: his name plastered on bumper stickers in the 2004 election.

....

Some prize! and Owen and Pickrering too? Is their fate to be names on bumper stickers?

6 posted on 04/29/2003 6:46:55 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The joke really is on the Dems. I watch a lot of Univision and Telemundo (My wife is Cuban). Everybody knows that the Cubans are conservative (the younger generation less so). What they don't realize is that the "hispanics" are more conservative than assumed. I hate to paint with a broad brush, but they work very hard, are extremely family oriented, love the U.S for the opportunity that it gives them, and are staunch Catholics who have no tolerance for same sex marriage or abortions (to a lesser degree).

The Estrada mess is getting big exposure on Spanish TV. He is a hero to a lot of South and Central Americans. He came here at 17(?), learned the language, went to Harvard, and became a distinguished Jurist. That is what most "Hispanic" immigrants want for their children. To see the Dems deny him is really pi$$ing them off.

7 posted on 04/29/2003 6:51:07 AM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: Mister Baredog; PhiKapMom; anniegetyourgun; Miss Marple; Howlin; ken5050; Grampa Dave; Shermy; ...
BINGO!

You got it. That line grabbed me as well. This is well written and needs widespread passing around for use.

8 posted on 04/29/2003 6:51:08 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: friendly
Great article, and Bush, should he pull Hispanics to the Republican Party, will make it the Majority Party for a generation.

The one interesting thing I found in this article was the reference to running ads in Indiana. Is Bayh vulnerable?

Anyone know, or can ping Indiana Freepers?

If so, I'm dancing for joy, because I'm afraid that he is the one RAT that can win in 2008.
9 posted on 04/29/2003 6:52:54 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: skeeter
I would dearly love to see the democrats hoist by their own petard.

it's coming and we're gonna do it to 'em. So many issues, so many petards.....where do we begin.

10 posted on 04/29/2003 6:53:09 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Some prize! and Owen and Pickrering too? Is their fate to be names on bumper stickers?

It ain't over by a long shot. The lynching of Estrada, the rape of Priscilla Owens and the backstabbing of Pickering after the local NAACP backed him, are all gonna add up to a huge loss of credibility with those constituents they claim to be the champions of.

11 posted on 04/29/2003 6:58:33 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: MattinNJ
The Estrada mess is getting big exposure on Spanish TV. He is a hero to a lot of South and Central Americans. He came here at 17(?), learned the language, went to Harvard, and became a distinguished Jurist. That is what most "Hispanic" immigrants want for their children. To see the Dems deny him is really pi$$ing them off.

That is VERY important news.

12 posted on 04/29/2003 7:00:35 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: skeeter
The GOP didn't choose either the battle or the battlefield. But now they are in it, there is only one way to fight this battle. Fight to win.
13 posted on 04/29/2003 7:01:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
So many issues, so many petards.....where do we begin.

Never mind, just start hoisting with the first you see.

14 posted on 04/29/2003 7:02:33 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: skeeter
The genie is out of the bottle. Perhaps the best way to get it back in the bottle is to show the Dems that TWO can play at that game.
15 posted on 04/29/2003 7:09:32 AM PDT by hchutch (America came, America saw, America liberated; as for those who hate us, Oderint dum Metuant)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Did you see the piece in NRO today, saying that Bush should threaten the Dems with recess appts, like ROBERT BORK FOR THE SUPREME COURT unless he gets and up/down vote on his nominations...
16 posted on 04/29/2003 7:10:02 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050
Did you see the piece in NRO today, saying that Bush should threaten the Dems with recess appts, like ROBERT BORK FOR THE SUPREME COURT unless he gets and up/down vote on his nominations...

I love that idea and couldn't agree more. Got a link?

17 posted on 04/29/2003 7:11:49 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Never mind, just start hoisting with the first you see.

I'll do it everytime.

18 posted on 04/29/2003 7:15:43 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
www.nationalreview.com.......worth checking out everyday..
20 posted on 04/29/2003 7:23:53 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Harkin also explained why he's helping Democrats prevent a Senate vote on the confirmation of lawyer Miguel Estrada to a federal court judgeship.

Harkin told his colleagues he's heard that Estrada - who learned English after immigrating to America from Honduras, who graduated with honors from Harvard's law school, who was given the highest possible rating by the American Bar Association, a man Harkin's never met - might be a "right-wing kook."

Harkin also is outraged that Estrada refuses to answer senators' questions.

Senate records show Harkin has not asked a single question of Estrada.
21 posted on 04/29/2003 7:24:36 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa
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To: BOBTHENAILER
"After several failed attempts by Senate Republicans to break a Democratic filibuster, it's starting to look as if Miguel Estrada may never make it to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit."

This is only because Frist has no backbone. CandyPants Frist should have demanded that the Dems conduct an actual fillibuster. If he had, this would have ended a long time ago.

22 posted on 04/29/2003 7:33:28 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: suntsu
class action case by Latino Customs Agents who claim that they were cheated out of their language (Spanish) pay. The case is a slam dunk, yet Ashcroft is fighting it tooth and nail.

I don't know what the details are but it IS his job to defend the govt. Do you wish that he just throw principle out the window and start acting like DEMONCRATS?

23 posted on 04/29/2003 7:49:10 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Did you see the piece in NRO today, saying that Bush should threaten the Dems with recess appts

I don't see why Pres Bush should go out on the limb and waste political capital on this when the wussie GOP in the senate folded like a bunch of a**es.

24 posted on 04/29/2003 7:56:10 AM PDT by paul51
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To: ken5050
www.nationalreview.com.......worth checking out everyday..

Thanks....added to my favorites.

25 posted on 04/29/2003 7:59:48 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
FRIST CAN LOCK UP THE SENATE BY FORCING THE ISSUE AND KEEP THEM THERE AROUND THE CLOCK!!!! But as with all Republicans he has no spine!!!
26 posted on 04/29/2003 8:44:32 AM PDT by AbsoluteJustice (Pounding the world like a battering ram. Forging the furnace for the final grand slam!!)
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To: TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa
In fact, some of the spots are already airing in four states: Nevada, Arkansas, Indiana and North Carolina. All those states have significant and growing Latino populations -- and Democratic senators seeking re-election in 2004. There are more ads coming in Louisiana, Florida, South Carolina, North Dakota and South Dakota. And just to make sure Latino voters don't miss the point about Democrats and their opposition to Estrada, some Republican spots are in Spanish.

Iowa was last year's election. Hopefully this will carry forward to 06 for Harkin

27 posted on 04/29/2003 9:00:05 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Is the Detroit News on the list of publications that should be excerpted?
28 posted on 04/29/2003 9:01:39 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Even better President Bush should appoint all the blocked judges with recess appointments the next time Congress adjourns.
29 posted on 04/29/2003 9:07:45 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Molly Pitcher; Miss Marple; ohioWfan
ping
30 posted on 04/29/2003 9:09:17 AM PDT by kayak (Pray for President Bush, our troops, and our nation!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Sutton is being voted on at this time.........
31 posted on 04/29/2003 9:16:08 AM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Don't think for a second that it is just this nomination. There are a lot of other forces at work here.

Down here in Houston, and across Texas in general, Texicans are getting frozen out of the Democratic party by Blacks and Liberals. They are very underrepresented. This is a fact. AS the old conservativs die off and the new ones come in they are feeling more at home in the more merit-based Republican party. WE come a long way from the old conservatives of the fifties and WE deserve the credit.

These two factors can not be over emphasised. Democrats work on race we work on merit.
32 posted on 04/29/2003 9:18:13 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Sheldon)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
This article says Bush should appoint Bork as a recess appt to the Supremes if the need arises to get the Dems to back down!

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-barnett042903.asp
33 posted on 04/29/2003 9:30:50 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
as a Floridian I'm glad to see pressure being put on Graham.
34 posted on 04/29/2003 9:33:38 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: hchutch; skeeter
Perhaps the best way to get it back in the bottle is to show the Dems that TWO can play at that game.

I share skeeter's concern about the GOP playing identity politics over this. More likely, instead of putting the genie back in the bottle, the RATS will likely escalate. This embracing of identity politics would certainly not be good in the long run.

Either way, I'm hoping we get Estrada in. It'd make me quite happy to spike one down the RATS throats. Conservatives have been eating s**t for years, so it's time to make them eat some. If only we had Senate Republicans that didn't play by Maquis of Queensbury rules....

35 posted on 04/29/2003 9:34:02 AM PDT by adx (Will produce tag lines for beer)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Senate Democrats managed to convince a handful of Latino advocacy groups to join them in opposing Estrada.

This sounds like union leaders going along with some REALLY LEFTIST stuff, which their voters don't support. This is the kind of stuff which creates Reagan (Bush) Democrats.
36 posted on 04/29/2003 9:37:41 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
If you look at the bottom of the article, you will see that the piece was syndicated by the Washington Post writers' group.
37 posted on 04/29/2003 9:38:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator (Zotting is so much fun, there oughta be a law!)
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To: deport
Sutton is confirmed by the Senate

Yeas……52
Nays….. 41

38 posted on 04/29/2003 9:45:04 AM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: deport
Sutton's confirmation means that several RATS in their caucus are getting very skittish about the filibuster strategy. They are playing with fire, and they know it.
39 posted on 04/29/2003 9:47:26 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: mwl1
Not sure but it appears only one crossed over to vote for Sutton with 7 Senators not voting. I was listening to the vote and some voted yea and then changed their vote at the end.....

It appears we can have at least three judge nominees being held up without a vote if things continue.... Estrada, Owen, and Pickering.
40 posted on 04/29/2003 9:51:38 AM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: deport
My point was that the RATS recognize that their position is unprecedented and politically dangerous. There was speculation last week that they would allow no votes on any circuit court nominee. Sutton's confirmation demonstrates that they cannot hold their caucus together on a total nuclear strategy.
41 posted on 04/29/2003 9:56:00 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: mwl1
good point. Feinstein voted for him in committee, I wonder if she voted to actually confirm.
42 posted on 04/29/2003 9:56:02 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: Admin Moderator
If you look at the bottom of the article, you will see that the piece was syndicated by the Washington Post writers' group.

My apologies, thanks for the help.

43 posted on 04/29/2003 10:16:07 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: adx; hchutch
This embracing of identity politics would certainly not be good in the long run.

The Dems will easily reverse any damage suffered by the Estrada debacle by upping the anti on some other issue - nobody does racial pandering like they do. On the other hand, the GOP is not in a position to outbid them without risking their base. Its a losing game for us.

The GOP needs to make its case based upon Estrada's professional qualifications only, as they have for the most part, and leave conclusions re: the democrat's motives to the voters.

44 posted on 04/29/2003 10:16:30 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: friendly
I cannot wait to see what bombs Dubya plans to drop.

The "stealth" President will strike again.

45 posted on 04/29/2003 10:17:52 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: deport
Sutton is being voted on at this time.........

If you hear, let me know the result.

46 posted on 04/29/2003 10:35:40 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
52 Yea..... 41 Nay.....

Not Voting - 7
Graham (D-FL)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sarbanes (D-MD)

Both Feinstein and Nelson (NE) voted Yea.....

47 posted on 04/29/2003 10:37:05 AM PDT by deport (Beware of Idiots bearing gifts.... One maybe the FR Joke)
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To: grapeape
WE come a long way from the old conservatives of the fifties and WE deserve the credit. These two factors can not be over emphasised. Democrats work on race we work on merit.

Fantastic news. Thanks a million for adding it to this thread. I think what you stated might be part of the reason Bush is polling ahead of RAT candidates in NY & CA, two states with very large hispanic populations.......not to mention the huge electoral votes.

TX, NY & CA........RATs are soiling their panties at the thought of losing all those states.

48 posted on 04/29/2003 10:39:45 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: votelife
This sounds like union leaders going along with some REALLY LEFTIST stuff, which their voters don't support. This is the kind of stuff which creates Reagan (Bush) Democrats.

Good points you've made on all three posts. I especially think you nailed it with the last sentence above.

My son in college predicts a huge Bush win in 04......reason being ALL his liberal friends say they are voting Bush.

49 posted on 04/29/2003 10:43:43 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The dems won't get away with this, they already lost hispanic votes but Estrada BETTER be passed through and soon or the backlash for the dems will be more horrific as their majority status.
50 posted on 04/29/2003 10:45:59 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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