The Dini-gration of Darwinism

AgapePress ^ | April 29, 2003 | Mike S. Adams

[whattajoke]

True, abiogenesis is not part of the Theory of Evolution. It is, however, usually taught side-by-side with it."

You should have stopped after the first sentence. Abiogenesis is certainly not taught alongside evolutionary biology. The only place you'll typically find that is in creationist propaganda touting their viewpoint.

[f.Christian]

wj ...

Believe me, creation garbage is akin to this... pure nonsense that doesn't warrant a response. (So why am I doing it? ; )

fC ...

you come on a conservative site and publish this liberal garbage --- slime ?

[Dataman]

adherents to the theory get as whipped up as any adherent to a religion.

It won't be long now... with lather aplenty, Whattajoke has already started the decline.

[f.Christian]

You hijack (( reroute )) and cut the conservative power line and then you don't want to pay the bill you are running up ?

[Dataman]

Abiogenesis is certainly not taught alongside evolutionary biology.

If you mean to say this incredible and elaborate theory was developed without any regard for its basis whatsoever, we're all snickering.

[f.Christian]

wj ...

As has been stated here a million times, scientific debate is not meant for public spectacle. Truth be told, it's a tedious, boring exercise detailing minute facts, written out over tens of thousands of pages in hundreds of texts, journals, online resources, museum placards, etc.


fC ...

classic ... elitisim !


To: f.Christian

fC...

Originally the word liberal meant social conservatives(no govt religion--none) who advocated growth and progress---mostly technological(knowledge being absolute/unchanging)based on law--reality... UNDER GOD---the nature of GOD/man/govt. does not change.

LC...

Now I follow, thank you. Actually, I don't disagree with this at all since I see the left as abandoning the uncertianty of democracy and majority rule (( constitutional // law ))** for the assurance technocracy and expert rule (( dictatorship // tyranny ))**.

152 posted on 9/10/02 12:17 PM Pacific by Liberal Classic

** .. .. .. my additions !

Boshevik monopoly (( experts )) ... social // mind engineers ---

Brainwashing (( God // Truth )) -- Indoctrination (( lies // evolution // atheism )) !

Main Entry: tech·no·crat
Pronunciation: 'tek-n&-"krat
Function: noun
Date: 1932
1 : an adherent of technocracy
2 : a technical expert; especially : one exercising managerial authority

Main Entry: tech·noc·ra·cy
Pronunciation: tek-'nä-kr&-sE
Function: noun
Date: circa 1919
: government by technicians; specifically : management of society by technical experts

[whattajoke]

FC: "you come on a conservative site and publish this liberal garbage"

It is my strong contention that science, and all its tenets, is an important part of conservatism. We consider ourselves more knowledgable and educated (well, we are) and this is all part of that. The minority of YEC's in our world do us an injustice, and make for easy ridicule from the left.

[FactQuest]

Abiogenesis is certainly not taught alongside evolutionary biology.

Puh-lease. I went round and round on this before in another forum, and found several high school biology text books that had abiogenesis in the Evolution unit.

Most biology classes, include the ones I took in HS and college, teach them one behind the other, as a cohesive whole. Some give a little lip service to the speculative nature of abiogenesis, but generally its presented as well supported by the old amino acid experiment and whatnot.

[f.Christian]

wj ...


We consider ourselves more knowledgable and educated (well, we are) and this is all part of that.


fC ...

I see (( puke )) !

[BMCDA]

Nor can you authoritatively say that live evolved... for the same reasons. Dini seems to have granted himself that authority.

We can never exclude the possibility that a god created all life in the recent past but made it so that it looks as if it evolved over several million years. And of course he also planted all those fossils in the ground to lead us astray...

[stanz]

I don't speak for Dini and for all I know, his words may have been taken out of context.
I'm just relating to my own experiences in the classroom and in the field.

[Dataman]

And of course he also planted all those fossils in the ground to lead us astray...

Shame! You know better than that. It's not the evidence that we disagree with but the interpretation of the evidence (and sometimes the evolutionist manufacturing of the evidence).

[ThinkPlease]

Even if it were true, the childish "but they do it too!" response does not justify Dini's bigotry.

So is it bigotry when a professor fails a student who clearly hasn't done the work to pass a class? It's up to the student to retain knowledge and understand it. If the student chooses not to, that is his problem, not Dini's.

[stanz]

What makes some people angry, in my opinion, is not the rejection of evolutionary tenets per se, but the insistence on non-scientific arguments in any area which are not founded on reason.

[Dataman]

So is it bigotry when a professor fails a student who clearly hasn't done the work to pass a class?

You need to read up on the Dini case. What you say is not related to Dini and his bigotry.

[ThinkPlease]

It's not the evidence that we disagree with but the interpretation of the evidence (and sometimes the evolutionist manufacturing of the evidence).

Or the complete ignoring of the evidence when it doesn't suit you.

[whattajoke]

y'know, I was gonna take offense at you stating that my views are "liberal," but then again, I can't find one freeper who would want your garbled musings held up as a paragon of conservatism!

[Taliesan]

I'm one of the people he would not endorse. And more power to him.

[Dataman]

What makes some people angry, in my opinion, is not the rejection of evolutionary tenets per se, but the insistence on non-scientific arguments in any area which are not founded on reason.

You mean like something coming from nothing?
Like life coming from non-life?
Like a complete and massive genetic code found in a bacteria?
You mean like whales trotting around on land like horses?

[f.Christian]

Psychotic people so invested in their theories can't comprehend reality for an instant w/o crashing !