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We Must Become Second Amendment Zealots If We Are To Survive.
Sierra Times ^ | 27 April 2003 | Michael Gaddy

Posted on 04/29/2003 12:52:17 PM PDT by 45Auto

If you wonder at my use of the word "zealot" in the title, I would explain that by saying I feel that the majority of the so-called "defenders and supporters" of the second amendment have long since sold their souls to the powers of government, and those of us who believe it holds the key to freedom, must from this point on be zealots in its defense.

We must face the fact that no one connected to government will be able to prevent the usurpation of our right to own arms sufficient to protect our homes and families. Wake up folks! Government has been involved in a well-planned, incremental approach to the disarming of the citizens of this country for decades.

Billions of dollars and man-hours have been spent through groups such as the National Rifle Association over the past 80 years, lobbying those in government to protect our rights as granted by our creator and enumerated in the Constitution they swore to uphold and defend. And what has it bought us?

1934-National Firearms Act

1938-Federal Firearms Act

1968- 68' Gun Control Act

1972-BATF expanded to deal with firearms

1986-Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act

1990-Crime Control Act

1994-Brady Bill

1994-Assault Weapons Ban

1998-National Instant Check System

No matter how sweet the prose of the names of these pieces of legislation or how they inflame the passions of the ignorant socialist masses, the fact remains; they are all unconstitutional - and deadly to our freedom.

One of the real problems we face as Second Amendment "zealots," is the fact that the largest of our right to keep and bear arms "defenders", the NRA, has supported a great majority of the above listed government infringements on our firearms rights. Almost two years ago I wrote of this betrayal. NRA: Pro Second or Government Lapdogs?

We must face the fact that we are wasting resources and time lobbying those in government. They will never turn on the god they worship. Government is the source of their power and wealth. Government, as it becomes more and more corrupt, requires the people not have the means to resist that corruption. Thus, the gradual encroachment on our ability to possess the type weapons necessary to remain free.

We see our military issuing - what one could only assume to be fully automatic AK-47's - to people they do not even know in Iraq, but we here in the US of A are forbidden to own similar rifles. We may have "semi-automatics", but not if they have a bayonet lug or high capacity magazine. This fact speaks volumes. Does an unknown Iraqi policeman have more rights to freedom than we?

If we are so naïve as to place our hopes for adherence to constitutional principles in the republican or democratic party, we should just turn in our firearms now and submit to the tyranny that follows without wasting any more time or resources. How long will it take before we all realize they are players for the government, not the people, and are only distinguishable when they switch their "home and away" uniforms?

Can the facts be painted any more vividly than the White House's support for the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994? Just take a look at those who are singing the praises of the Bush Administration. When those who call themselves "conservative" are lauded by the likes of Feinstein and Schumer, its time to seek high ground. Both of these fine representatives of Marxism have said legislation will be introduced to make the AWB permanent and to close the loophole on importation of high capacity magazines. And Bush is now on record in support of this legislation.

Of course, Feinstein must be on the administrations short list of favorites, what with the 600 million dollar government contract to her hubby's business.

In the 2004 Presidential Election, we as Second Amendment zealots are going to be faced with two candidates who support our disarmament. This is the goal of government. Vote for whomever you choose. You still get that which they want you to have.

Republican faithful will preach of how much worse off we will be with the democrat who would disarm us, and besides, there are so many other things that need to be accomplished that only a republican administration can handle. We have found that to include the Patriot Act, Patriot Act II and a run amuck Department of Homeland Security. How much more of this style government can we tolerate and still call ourselves a free people?

Democrats will continue with their Marxist agenda. And, God forbid, should there be another act of terrorism in this country, the cowards will gladly surrender the wisp of freedom we have left if mother government will only let them hide behind her apron.

Trying to secure our second amendment rights through the Congress will be a further effort in futility. We are all familiar with their machinations, and besides, haven't they brought us to the place we are now?

Conclusion

Statistics tell us there are approximately 88 million of us gun owners in this country. Unfortunately, only half of that number might qualify as gun zealots. There are those who place politics above the guarantees of Creator and Constitution. There are those who believe as long as they can participate in their little competitions, whether it be shooting make believe outlaws, clay pigeons or metal gongs, that no one needs an assault rifle. There are those who have been perverted totally out of phase to the original intent of the second amendment and its guarantee against tyranny.

History has been replaced with Social Studies in our public school gulags. A look at a public school textbook for middle school reveals no mention of firearms in the discussion of the Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment is only discussed in the realm of militias and how they were used in the revolution. It further states that because we have organizations like the National Guard there is no need for private possession of firearms!

It is my belief it is now time to either fish or cut bait. The lines have been drawn. We must present a united front. 40+ million Second Amendment zealots could present quite a problem to anyone seeking the presidency, or any other political office. But that will not be accomplished if we continue on the path we have been on for the past 50+ years. Political parties, the NRA and compromise on our God given imperatives are not working. Over 2,000 gun control laws on the books should tell us something. People who write and support gun laws either don't understand the Constitution, hate our guts, or both. You will not secure freedom by trying to appease them.

We have been blessed with one man in this nation who understands the concepts of liberty and freedom and fights for them daily. We Second Amendment zealots must unite behind this man of whom it has been said: "He personifies the Founding Fathers' conception of the citizen-statesman. He made it clear from the start that his principles would never be compromised, and they never were." Another added: "There are few people in public life who through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. He is one of those few."

I speak of none other than Congressman Ron Paul, 14th District of Texas. Former Treasury Secretary William Simon, put it best when he said: "Dr. Paul is the one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill.

The ball is now in our court. We can continue on the path we have been on, supporting political parties, sending our hard earned dollars to organizations that compromise on every gun control issue, and supporting those in office who promise anything to obtain that office and then sell our Constitution and their principles to the highest bidder, or we can give our solid support to a man who knows no compromise when it comes to the oath he took to "uphold and defend."

40+ million Second Amendment zealots with Dr. Ron Paul as our standard bearer could make a difference. What say ye?


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To: Dane
the barbary pirates attacked us first. When did Iraq attack us?
41 posted on 04/29/2003 1:41:02 PM PDT by Continental Op
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To: sargon
Bye.
42 posted on 04/29/2003 1:41:07 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Jesus loves guns this I know, Vernon Howell tells me so.......)
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To: Continental Op
The first time they started writing checks to suicide bombers in order to inflame the Arab world against the West, which culminated in the 9/11 attack.

Or was it when they made training camps available to Al Quaeda? Or was it the safe haven they provided?

And if that wasn't enough, maybe it was when they made it a point to violate the peace treaty they signed in 1991 to terminate the First Gulf War and to remain in power - a treaty which they signed because of the efforts of this nation in dissuading them from acquiring neighboring possessions in an effort to make an Arab superstate.

43 posted on 04/29/2003 1:47:04 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: The_Pickle
And the good thing is, you only used one comma.
44 posted on 04/29/2003 1:47:33 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: asformeandformyhouse

45 posted on 04/29/2003 1:47:56 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: capitan_refugio
"We don't have a tyrannical government today. That's just hyperbole on your part."

You're right, we don't. But... here's the thing. The concept that armed civilians have the ability to overthrow such a government is a shibboleth.

Consider this: How many times has someone, or a group, armed with whatever weapons, successfully held off even a police SWAT team and gotten away? The answer is Zero.

I remember another poster, a long time ago, talking about this well-armed militia camp, as if it were impregnable. That was the final stand, in his mind. One A-10, with a couple of Hellfire missiles would put an end to that fantasy.

We saw what happened in Iraq, with our fine military just walking over an entire Iraqi army. Do the RKBA folks _really_ believe they could do better? If so, they are deceived.

We are long past the point where an armed populace is going to overthrow any government in the USA. It ain't gonna happen. Not now. Not ever.

But...we have a cool political system. The zealots can convince the population that their cause is just and elect people, from the school board level to the national level, who agree with them. We have elections every two years, for pete's sake. That's where our power is, not behind a toy "assault rifle." Sorry about the "toy" designation, but that's just what it is.

This battle is being fought in the wrong place. All these folks who think their little semi-autos are going to hold off even the local cops are just kidding themselves.

Get political! Militias and the like are a joke when it comes to access to power in the USA. The best civilian firearms are laughable, even compared to the firepower a small town SWAT team can bring to the battle. Never mind the military, which has another way to SWAT folks who want to fight.

It's all nonsense. The only route is through our fine, flexible system. Go convince people. Don't threaten them. "From my cold, dead hands," is a challenge, not an argument. If you want to die, then be my guest. Try to beat the local SWAT team. If you want to make a change, you'll do a lot better alive.
46 posted on 04/29/2003 1:48:12 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: Liberal Classic
Got it. Thanks.
47 posted on 04/29/2003 1:49:02 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: sargon
Bush is a moderate. If he was a conservative, he wouldn't have been elected. If we're lucky and we stop the Assault Weapons Ban in Congress, after his terms we can demand a conservative. If we abandon Bush now, we'll get another liberal.

The trick is to make sure the Republican Party know that we need the Assault Weapons ban killed off in Congress before it reaches his desk.
48 posted on 04/29/2003 1:50:33 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Dane
I don't know about a Libertarian Monarchy or smoking corn silk, but I do know that two schmucks with a beat up car and an average "assault rifle" pretty much paralyzed law enforcement not so long ago. I'm sure that lesson wasn't lost on foreign terrorists. I'm also sure that lesson was totally lost on those that continue to demonize law abiding gun owners. Their intent is to create millions of felons by legislative fiat.

You have no "one issue" upon which you take a princpled stand?

49 posted on 04/29/2003 1:51:20 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (He needed killin')
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To: Dead Corpse
You area liar. This slander I cannot let stand

Really? Huh here is a google search that shows Ron Paul playing both sides of the fence with Hillary House democrat representative, Pete Defazio.

DeFAZIO, PAUL INTRODUCE BILL TO REPEAL BUSH’S BLANK CHECK FOR WAR

February 05, 2003

Press Release | Contact: Kristie Greco (202) 225-6416

WASHINGTON, DC— Reps. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) and Ron Paul (R-TX) today introduced legislation to repeal the Iraq Use of Force Resolution passed by Congress and signed into law by the President last fall. Following is DeFazio’s statement: “I heard no new evidence today from Secretary Powell’s address to the United Nations, that would convince me that military action in Iraq is necessary to improve security of Americans.

“Americans want the President to lay a clear case for immediate military action in Iraq, but the Administration’s message keeps changing- six months ago, their case hinged on regime change, three months ago it was Saddam thwarting inspections, three weeks ago it was possible possession of chemical weapons, today its tenuous terrorist links. If the case was clear, it would have been clear from day one.

“Our nation’s immediate threat is still Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda terrorist network. We have full knowledge of North Korea’s equally rapidly developing nuclear weapons program under the control of an equally diabolical leader. There’s well-published accounts of several Mid-east governments aiding and funding known terrorists. Of America’s imminent threats, Saddam Hussein is much lower on the list.

“Saddam Hussein is a brutal untrustworthy tyrant, but he is being contained, and we should allow weapons inspectors to continue their work.....

LINK

50 posted on 04/29/2003 1:52:15 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Idiot. You may want to back up and punt again.
51 posted on 04/29/2003 1:54:49 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dan from Michigan
<< Ron Paul voted against a ban on frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers. >>

That is misleading and deceptive. Paul voted against the bill because it was an unconstitutional consolidation of power by the fedguv. Even if it is a "good" cause, the fedguv has no Constitutional authority to usurp the states.

It will do us no good to support the 2nd Amendment by violating the 9th and 10th Amendments. That would be the epitome of "shooting ourselves in the foot".
52 posted on 04/29/2003 1:55:35 PM PDT by Con X-Poser
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To: Dane
Get it through that thickened skull of yours. Rule of Law. Constitution says "Declare War", not "resolution of force". And you had to go trolling through a democrat website to find it as well! Jackass.
53 posted on 04/29/2003 1:58:55 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Jay D. Dyson
<< I will continue to support the NRA and its state affiliates until I see that it is no longer relevant. >>


The NRA might be relevant, but that's not a good thing for gun right supporters. They are relevant as the biggest COMPROMISERS and PHONIES in the issue today.


NRA is SHOT


Check out this URL (http://keepandbeararms.com/information/XcInfoBase.asp?CatID=175) to see dozens of other examples of how the NRA has COMPROMISED our gun rights. If you're not familiar with the NRA compromises of the last few years, and you still think they are a solid conservative organization fighting for our gun rights, you will be SHOCKED. The article below undresses the NRA as PHONY, once and for all. If you support gun rights, join Gun Owners of America (GOA http://www.gunowners.org/), Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO http://www.jpfo.org/index.htm), or KeepAndBearArms (KABA http://www.keepandbeararms.com/). They are the groups who actually support the Constitution and the right to bear arms.


From: Newsletters@KeepAndBearArms.com


"Assault Weapons" Ban Sunset Battle About to Get Ugly

KeepAndBearArms.com April 24, 2003

In Monday's edition of the Washington Post, Dana Milbank
was kind enough to report on the results of
KeepAndBearArms.com's poll slamming President Bush for
his support for the Clinton/Feinstein 1994 federal ban on
various semi-automatic firearms and on effective-capacity
magazines.

The Post even pointed out the strange silence from the NRA's
"leadership" on Bush's promise to follow in his father's footsteps
as a gun banning backstabber.

Here's the Post's paragraph:

"The National Rifle Association, which opens its convention
in Orlando this week, has held its fire after a Bush spokesman
said the president supports reauthorizing the assault weapons
ban. Not so the pro-gun Web site keepandbeararms.com,
which did a somewhat, er, loaded Web poll. Asked whether
they would still vote for Bush if he signs a renewal of the ban,
79.6 percent of respondents chose the option, 'Hell no, and I'll
tell all of my friends to abandon him, too.' Three percent chose
the less extreme option, 'Yes, I would still vote for him, even
after he proves that he's a traitor.' "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A7981-2003Apr21

If you've ever seen NRA's Executive VP, Wayne LaPierre speak
publicly, you know the man has a way with words. The cat doesn't
get Mr. Smoothtalker's tongue. His silence is deafening.

MESSAGE TO WAYNE LAPIERRE AT NRA:

Playing "politics" with our rights again? If you fellas sell us out
on the so-called "assault weapons" ban, everything in this archive:
http://KeepAndBearArms.com/NRA will look sweet, kind and
gentle compared to the active, aggressive, continual public
awareness campaign aimed at NRA's leadership that will be
launched. Gun owners are fed up with compromises and
political games being played against our rights. The vast
majority polled promise they will not cast another vote in Bush's
direction if he signs this ban. Do you honestly believe your
membership tally won't suffer a similar fate?

The sunsetting of the Clinton/Feinstain gun ban is our line in
the sand. No compromise. None. Sunsetting the ban is the
only option.

~~~~~~~

Our "pro gun" President recently expressed support for the
current illegal firearms ban -- the Post broke the bad but
unsurprising news to us -- and support for renewing it when
it comes up for its scheduled sunset in September of 2004,
just before the general election.

All NRA has managed to say publicly about Bush's support for
the gun ban is that it won't matter if Congress doesn't put the bill
on Mr. Bush's desk -- a weak-kneed statement made by Wayne
LaPierre. While factually correct but empty of commitment -- and
thus requiring no spine -- gun owners who send the NRA money
ought to stop and wonder why they are giving him a pass on his
support for a federal gun ban that clearly violates the Second
Amendment.

WorldNetDaily.com ran a report on the next day, showing rabid
anti-gun, anti-self-defense Senators -- including Dianne Feinstein
and Chuck "Snickers That Women in His District Are Defenseless
Against Local Murderers" Schumer -- praising the President's new
fondness toward gun banning.

Rabid gun banners are praising the Prez for joining them in their
quest to disarm Americans, but NRA is AWOL? Hello?

When the NRA convention convenes later this week, all
lion-hearted patriots in attendance are urged to make noise
for one thing:

SUNSETTING THIS GUN BAN

For clarification, the Post didn't quite paint the whole picture
on where gun owners stand in regards to the President's offer
to pull a Bill Clinton. A full 92% of 8,677 respondents said they
would not vote for the President in his bid for reelection -- if
he signed the soon-to-be-submitted reauthorization of the gun
ban.

The Washington Post -- along with its balanced counterpart, the
Times -- is a staple inside the Beltway. There's no doubt that
President Bush is on notice as to where gun owners stand on
his obedience to illegal, unAmerican gun prohibitionism. It's
now time to rattle the Congressional cages. If you haven't
contacted your Rep and Senator, this is your notice to add
some phone calls to your "to do" list. Naturally, that doesn't
apply if you happen to have a political whore like Dianne
Feinstein or Hillary Clinton lording over your rights; women
who'd rather see other women raped than rapists shot aren't
likely to grasp concepts like "arms = freedom" -- guns are
for their bodyguards, paid for you YOU.

But if you live in an area where your congress critters can be
persuaded (or simply warned) by floods of phone calls, faxes
and mail, it is indeed time to start making waves. Do your part.
Carry your weight on this one, and get your friends to do the
same.

The battle to sunset the illegal, immoral 1994 Clinton/Feinstein
semi-auto rifle ban is about to get ugly...

A broad-based coalition of many gun rights organizations has
formed and is growing and will be announced any day now.
Just to become a member, a group must agree to get vindictive
with ANY public servant who supports, endorses, promotes,
votes for or even hedges on the 1994 federal gun ban. Up to,
and including, our "pro gun" Republicrat President. Same goes
for ANY "gun rights organization" that sells us out, no matter
how large or small, no matter how popular or entrenched.

It's time to separate the wheat from the chaff in the battle for
firearms freedoms. Nobody gets a pass on supporting this gun
ban.

Lead your charge. Gun Owners of America has an excellent
website feature to lead you straight to contact information for
your congressional servants. Make them serve Liberty, and
inform them that their failure to do so will result in political pain:
http://www.GunOwners.org/activism.htm

Please Note: an email to a federal legislator is nothing compared
to a phone call, a fax, or a hand-written letter delivered by snail
mail. You're lucky if an email to a federal legislator gets tallied.
Email does not get read and considered point by point. CALL!
At least. Sending snail mail AND calling is ideal. Ending this
onerous federal gun ban -- and smacking down a host of
anti-rights communist fools in the process -- is worth the time.

Here's that link again: http://www.GunOwners.org/activism.htm

"If you do phones, you can ruin the staff's day and they
will get nothing done -- because they are spending all their
time on the phone. That definitely gets their attention."
--Legislative Correspondent for congressman on our side
April 23, 2003

KeepAndBearArms.com
Gun Owners' Home Page

~~~~~~~

NOTE: If someone forwarded this email message to you, you
can sign up for our free email list in the upper left side of our
home page: http://KeepAndBearArms.com
54 posted on 04/29/2003 2:00:47 PM PDT by Con X-Poser
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To: Dane
Here's what Paul really wanted.... A nice, clean, legal Declaration of War without all the UN BS loaded onto it.
55 posted on 04/29/2003 2:00:50 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Get it through that thickened skull of yours. Rule of Law. Constitution says "Declare War", not "resolution of force". And you had to go trolling through a democrat website to find it as well! Jackass.

It is always ugly, yet vindicating, watching the "paulbots" self-destruct(especially in regards to reply #50 of this thread).

56 posted on 04/29/2003 2:03:55 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dead Corpse
<< Here's what Paul really wanted.... A nice, clean, legal Declaration of War without all the UN BS loaded onto it. >>

That's only half true. He stated he would vote *against* the bill, but he included the rider to try to get the Congress to at least show that they were indeed subverting the Constitution in their zealousness to start a war.

It worked. Congress rejected the rider asking for a Constitutional declaration, thereby ADMITTING the bill that gave Bush dictatorial war powers was NOT a Constitutional declaration of war.
57 posted on 04/29/2003 2:11:20 PM PDT by Con X-Poser
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To: Jael
<< 40+ million Second Amendment zealots with Dr. Ron Paul as our standard bearer could make a difference. What say ye? >>

Paul actually supports the Constitution he swore to uphold. Today's Republicans, who LIED to God and man when they held their hands on the Bible and took their oaths to defend and protect the Constitution, would never go for a standard bearer who actually has any standards.
58 posted on 04/29/2003 2:16:51 PM PDT by Con X-Poser
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To: Dane
You and Chancellor palpitation drive people away from the republicans in droves. The idea of voting for the same candidate as you makes me ill.

You're either idiots or shills.
59 posted on 04/29/2003 2:19:56 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Con X-Poser
That's only half true. He stated he would vote *against* the bill, but he included the rider to try to get the Congress to at least show that they were indeed subverting the Constitution in their zealousness to start a war.

It worked. Congress rejected the rider asking for a Constitutional declaration, thereby ADMITTING the bill that gave Bush dictatorial war powers was NOT a Constitutional declaration of war.

It's all kinda of moot now isn't it. It has been proven that Ron Paul joined arms with leftist liberal democrats in February to try to derail the War on Terrorism and on April 10th(the day after Baghdad falls), Con.Paul jumps over the fence and takes a position saying it is a good thing that saddam is gone.

I for one will not be surprised when Con. Paul jumps the fence again and gives a big smooch to Hillary democrat House Rep. Pete DeFazio, if something goes majorly wrong in Iraq.

With a "friend" like Ron Paul who needs an enemy.

60 posted on 04/29/2003 2:20:46 PM PDT by Dane
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