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1 posted on 04/30/2003 1:17:40 AM PDT by dansangel
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Come join the Hump-Day fun as we welcome Martin_Fierro with an Exclusive FR's Finest "Inquisition."
2 posted on 04/30/2003 1:23:33 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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JACK OSBOURNE: TYING A MILLSTONE AROUND A CHILD'S NECK



It really is sad. Some may think it laughable; but it's not. It's not merely another piece of news either-not just something to chatter about at morning coffee break. It's sad. It's tragic. Is it criminal?

Doesn't Jesus say something about adults pulling children under thereby being responsible at the judgment? He said that if one trips up a child it would a millstone hung around that person's neck as payment for spoiling one of the children.

But what about adults slinging millstones around kids' necks? Same judgment on the adults, right?

As far as I can see it, Oz and Sharon have hung Jack with a large rock around his neck. The entertainment world calls their family just that-entertainment. But a family is not meant to be here on this earth for others' entertainment. It is here to ground itself on the Word of God, live for God and then answer to God at the judgment for what was done in this temporary span called "earthly sojourn."

Yet Oz and family have so twisted their divine purpose for existence that not only have mother and father paid dearly with their debauched lifestyle-laced incessantly with cursing to the nth-but now Jack, the son, has admitted himself into rehab. Why? Lots of problems, one of them being alcohol and other drugs.

California, naturally. And the family stands alongside the son. The father is most pleased that the son had sense enough to get help. Blah blah blah and more airhead stuff for the media to suck up in the name of parental compassion.

Of course, the whole playout was from crazyville. But now that the teen boy is slung around the head with a millstone, that's not funny. In fact, should it not be found somewhere in the category of criminal? Is there not some kind of abuse that has been going on here for some time?

According to the daughter who refused from the outset to play the loose hanging family drama, the family never used swear words prior to the TV time frame. They were taught to be English proper, nice, mannerly, and abiding by rules of the house. Interesting.

So she has opted to keep clear of the nuthouse household on screen. No doubt her independent move will keep her sane and perhaps give her perspective to continue into adulthood with some balance regarding values and the like. Time will tell, off course.

But to think that Jack has wallowed in the daily camera fondling of his every move. To think that certain scenes were even manufactured to make the family appear even loonier than it is. To think that mother and father set their children up for profanity, gross displays of whatevers, and so on and so on. To think that TV watchers stroked all this with laughter. To think that all of this has been marketed in the name of "family" is beyond moral and rational limits.

However, our world has become so jaded that the Osbounre crazy den has become simply another hangout for the bored and curious. For that, Jack is paying the price. And others in the household have also.

Doesn't this sound adult tilted coming from 17-year-old Jack: "I voluntarily checked myself into a detox facility for my own health and well-being"?

"I got caught up in my new lifestyle and got carried away with drugs and alcohol," he explained to PEOPLE mag.

Then this comforting shot from Papa: "It takes a lot of courage and strength to admit you need help, and both Sharon and I are proud Jack is facing his problems head-on." Yuck village, Pa.

Yet it is Mama Sharon who states she takes blame for the falldown of the family. This will be the last run, she claims. But she claimed that before in an interview with Barbara Walters. Again, time will tell.

"This is definitely the last year," Sharon stated. "We can't do it anymore."

In other words, Osbournes, stop ruining yourselves. Jesus would be proud?


19 posted on 04/30/2003 5:37:08 AM PDT by grantswank
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To: dansangel
thanks for the pledge of allegiance post daily!!
20 posted on 04/30/2003 5:44:37 AM PDT by grantswank
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To: dansangel
Please join me in giving another deserving FReeper a warm welcome to FR's Finest...

Today that Finest is Martin_Fierro!

Good job dansangel. Another example of why FR is the best website on the 'net. It's our FReepers. Congrats on the spotlight Martin. Glad to call you one of us.

21 posted on 04/30/2003 5:44:48 AM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: dansangel
I thought all would find this little tidbit interesting!

1789 George Washington inaugurated as 1st president of US

33 posted on 04/30/2003 6:46:52 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Good morning, Dansy! What a super job you did with your colors and graphics and stuff! Love your pledge graphic today.

Hope you have a wonderful day - am sure glad the 'real' dansy is our sistah - not this reporter! LOL!

68 posted on 04/30/2003 7:36:19 AM PDT by Billie
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UNBELIEVABLE DEPARTMENT. . .UN KISSES UP TO CASTRO

Or is it?

The United Nations’ sleek edifice in downtown Manhattan impresses with its handsome lines and sky scraping modernity; but that’s about it for depth.

Today, April 29, the United Nations re-elected Cuba to its Human Rights commission! Check it out for more nuthouse stuff at the esteemed UN.

Now is not that like putting a child molester into a day care center? Or appointing an atheist chief priest of the village? Or ensconcing Hillary Clinton in the Oval Office?

Oh well, there’s been a lot of that goin’ ‘round lately. Cuba just jailed respected journalists, social activists, and librarians—70 of them. There they are—sitting in Castro’s cellrooms complete with one window each.

But I thought we just got photo shots of all that from Baghdad, eh? Didn’t media just take us into some of those dungeon playgrounds where Hussein the Horrible held forth?

Now on that precious isle where Jimmy Carter and Hollywood celebs like to play, Castro not only imprisons law-abiding cits but also gets credit for it by being enthroned on the UN Human Rights Commission.
And France wants to make up with the US? And tiddlies of the EU want to form their own defense factory? And North Korea wants a non-aggression treaty from the US for dismantling nukes that could blow us all to smithereens.

So what else is new in the crazy ward? "This is a setback for the cause of human rights," spokesman Ari Fleischer said. "Cuba does not deserve a seat on the Human Rights Commission. Cuba deserves to be investigated by the Human Rights Commission.

"We deplore the action. We will speak out against the action," he said, according to NewsMax Wires. He went on to tell media that the UN action "raises troubling issues." It is presumed that he was speaking in understatement?

The UN refuses to enforce its own resolutions regarding Iraq and slaps around the US in its Iraqi Freedom; but it can get by with putting Castro on the Human Rights Commission, even announcing it without blush to the world.

Is not that in-your-face diplomacy of the worst sort? And with all that, the United States is expected to be respectful, mannerly and adhering to the wisdom of Annan’s entourage?

US leadership cautions Castro that Washington will up its efforts to end the Cuban dictatorship, according to today’s WASHINGTON TIMES.

The US will implement "new creativity and vigor to hasten the inevitable democratic transition on the island," stated Roger Noriega, US President Bush’s man for assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs.

Colin Powell dittoed with "Castro continues to do nothing but oppress, suppress his people, suppress opinion. And we’re reviewing all of our policies."

While the US is going after Syria and North Korea, may it stay with the program regarding Cuba. Just because Castro and Company are next door, let’s not forget they really do pollute the liberty air around this part of the globe.

It was US envoy Otto Reich who claimed that "no one knows how many people rot in Castro’s dungeons." Echoes of Baghdad? Sounds like it to me.

Of course, Castro whines to reporters that it is all the US’ fault. He claims that the US and Cuban exiles in Florida have staged a "warped plot" to stage a Havana crisis which would eventuate in a military move on the island.

Wish to God it were so—tonight.
90 posted on 04/30/2003 8:31:31 AM PDT by grantswank
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To: dansangel; martin_fierro; Billie; daisyscarlett; dutchess; Mama_Bear; FreeTheHostages; .45MAN; ...
Good morning, dandevil...) So, like, uhhhhh....why the kid gloves treatment for young Martin? Seems to me, you were uncommonlly gentle and courteous, and that he escaped with only minor cuts and bruises. I must confess, I am a trifle disappointed, but only a trifle...thank you for another grueling read, Miss Dansy...you rock.

You're a lucky fella, Martin...dansy don't usually show quarter to anyone. Glad you've been honored here in the Finest spotlight...have seen your handle many times, and always appreciate what you have to say. You're wheels are cool...) I hope you enjoy your day.

Good morning to all our Hostesses, and all FRiends...another beeyooteefull day we find ourselves in...I'm verrrry glad to be alive.


94 posted on 04/30/2003 8:33:59 AM PDT by jwfiv
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Congrats, Martin on being today's Finest! So sorry you got stuck with dansangel doing the interview, but then again with her reputation you should've known better. :-)
118 posted on 04/30/2003 9:12:19 AM PDT by The Thin Man
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No need to be nasty about a man of the cloth….

LOL!!! I wonder if even a notorious liberal such as you was able to type that with a straight face?

120 posted on 04/30/2003 9:15:16 AM PDT by The Thin Man
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Self-absorbed ping to my Picksburgh Posse and Affiliated Buds.
192 posted on 04/30/2003 10:11:10 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Mr. Avuncular)
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Great interview.. great pic, and from looking at Martin_Fierro's remarks in the forum, I can tell he is an asset to FR. Thanks dansangel for PINGING me to this thread. (Though I admit we both have a bias and love this thread :o)

Martin, you must be feeling all warm and fuzzy inside :o)

Can ya feel the love man? Sending some more "lovin vibes" your way.. (better clarify this is Vets_Wife.. or my husband will choke on his java when he reads the "lovin vibes" part.. LOL)

FRegards, Vets
219 posted on 04/30/2003 10:50:22 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife ("CNN - WE report WHEN WE decide.")
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INTERFAITH SUMMIT: WHAT IS MISSING? EVIL



How can one find fault with a gathering that holds hands and chants peace peace peace?

What’s wrong with that picture?

Not much, of course. Peace and daffodils in spring and mom’s roast beef dinner — they are all quite nifty. Therefore, gatherings can endorse them without any fear of being kicked in the shins.

So it was that so-called Christian, Muslim and Jewish reps met in Chicago today appealing for the planet to turn to peace. Now isn’t that nice? And will the planet turn to peace?

“In a dark time the eye begins to see. We cannot afford to live in a decade of violence and war,” stated Bob Edgar, General Secretary of the theologically liberal National Council of Churches.

"We need to come together as we've done at this summit to think broadly about how we can model some new behavior here in the United States, to stand up and speak clearly — an alternative voice to some of those negative fundamentalist voices — and to also urge our colleagues around the world to model that behavior as well," he said, according to UPI.

"We're not going to be a very happy place if for the next century all we do is go to war with each other and think badly of one another.”

Of course, the underlining theme that was not all the difficult to get hold of was that United States President George W. Bush is out to lunch when it comes to religious faith and action. Further, he is out to lunch mainly because he listens to and companies with evangelicals and fundamentalists and charismatics—biblically grounded Christians.

Those who travel to an interfaith conclave such as met at the O’Hare Marriott Hotel are theologically on the other side from the biblically-moored evangelicals, fundamentalists and charismatics. Those at the holding-hands-for-peace sing-around are known in religious circles as theological liberals. Their counterparts are theological conservatives.

And when it comes to theological liberals, they simply adore such themes as peace and happiness and children at play, but realities such as evil, sin, Satan and personal accountability before a personal God who appeared in Jesus Christ are the last postulates of religion they would adhere to. In fact, they are not only the last postulates, they are ones that would never be scratched into their doctrinal chart to begin with.

What President Bush kept reiterating before and throughout and following the Iraqi Freedom conflict was the “evil axis” in this world. “Evil” was and still is an oft-repeated term when it came to President Bush’s public speeches. He considers the axis to be an evil that is actual. It is an evil that works from hell’s power. It is an evil overseen by demons who would destroy God’s creation and all living persons.

Theological liberals see the biblically-focused evangelical, fundamentalist and charismatic forthrightness regarding the Bible’s definition of evil as an evil. Therefore, theological liberals spend every ounce of so-called spiritual energy countering anyone who defends a biblical definition of evil.

For instance, there is the dean of a cathedral nearby who has spent much of his adult years fighting the “evil” that will not legitimatize homosexual actions. He defends practicing homosexuality in the name of “diversity.” Therefore, those who would disagree with him on biblical grounds are considered an evil presence in our community. They, the biblical definers of “evil,” are the enemy, not those who engage in homosexual acts.

And so the beat goes on and on and on. Take whatever moral and ethical issue you would like; when it comes down to defining it as evil or not evil, the theological liberal does not care a flip about the Bible data. The theological liberal cares only for his own politically correct, liberally acceptable definition. Period.

Therefore, when interfaith summits gather such as today’s Chicago’s sing-around for world peace, it is simply another opportunity for the forces of evil to rejoice. Why? Because they, hell’s demonic evils, will not be recognized at all by those at the summit.

Instead, they will be tolerated in the name of “peace” and “happiness for all.” Real evils will be sidelined in order to attack the very persons who define “evil” by the biblical definition, hence the summit not being any friend to President Bush and Company.

233 posted on 04/30/2003 1:12:05 PM PDT by grantswank
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To: dansangel; martin_fierro
Better late than never . . .

Congratulations on your selection as one of FR's finest!

I'm jealous!

375 posted on 07/31/2003 9:13:43 PM PDT by BraveMan
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