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Americans Marry Russian Women. What For?
Pravda ^ | April 29, 2003 | Olga Blagodarova

Posted on 04/30/2003 3:51:12 AM PDT by WaterDragon

American men use Russian women for self-affirmation. The latter seem to be liking this fact

Marriages between Russian women and American men are very successful and harmonious, Olga Makhovskaya, the senior research assistant at the Psychology Institute in Russia's Academy of Sciences says. When an American man switches from the model of American family where husband and wife are partners equal in rights to the model of an Orthodox family, he thus raises his own significance. In Orthodox families men are given more authority and are more respected. It is certainly an advantage for a man and raises his social and psychological status. In a word, American men seem to have tired of the feminism propagated by American women, and it is frequent that they seek Russian women to start families.

Russian wives in America give up the traditional model of the Russian Orthodox family which relieves them of a heavy burden of responsibility and gives a chance to have a normal life in a family where the range of responsibilities is more definite for them: children, family affairs and housekeeping. At that, Russian women enjoy more attention and support from husbands.

As psychologists say, now Russian men undervalue the essence of family. The whole of the burden, housekeeping, upbringing of children, earning of money are shifted onto women. And, at the time when Russian women have so much responsibilities, their husbands spend their time dozing in front of TV sets in desperate attempts to find out the meaning of life and to understand the truth of the universe. They merely disregard everyday problems that are essential for their families as they consider the above mentioned idle thinking to be of higher importance.

That is why, as Olga Makhovskaya thinks relations in families between Russian and American partners are more harmonious. Each party gets what it wants to have. Husbands get authority and status, and wives are given, in exchange, peace in family and well-being. "Families of this kind where husbands are Americans and women are Russians prove to be long-living, as the roles in the family are clearly distributed and the mechanism operates good, although these are mixed families. In such families each of the couple is ready to make concessions and on the whole, wonderfully performs the role."

In addition, as researches held by Olga Makhovskaya reveal, marriages between Chinese men and Russian women are also very successful. ?There are tens of thousands of such marriages in Russia's Primorye region in the Far East. Chinese men are hard-working, they don't abuse in alcohol drinking and bring their wages home. In a word, they have lots of advantages by contrast with Russian men." It is sad, but the researches don't mention for whom Russian men suit wonderfully.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: maledominant; marriage; psychology; roles; russia; russianorthodox
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1 posted on 04/30/2003 3:51:12 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
I keep getting email from a nice Russian woman who wants to meet me.

When my Nigerian business partner comes through with the dough I'm going to send for her.

2 posted on 04/30/2003 3:55:01 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: WaterDragon
Pravda must be in the pay of the Russian brides websites. I don't know whether it's urban legends or not, but I've heard some horror stories about those blushing Russian brides.
3 posted on 04/30/2003 3:55:36 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis
There's something about marrying a girl who wants a ticket to a better life. Or should we be cynical that love comes down to one's bottom line?? ;-)
4 posted on 04/30/2003 3:57:09 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: billorites
Buy(so to speak) American
5 posted on 04/30/2003 3:58:13 AM PDT by Razwan
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To: goldstategop; doug from upland
Time for a parody on these Russian brides. DFU, can you rework the lyrics of Fat Bottomed Girls by Queen to, "Mafioso Girls"
6 posted on 04/30/2003 3:59:48 AM PDT by flying Elvis
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To: billorites
When my Nigerian business partner comes through with the dough I'm going to send for her.

LOL -- EX-cellent! Let us know, fer sure!

7 posted on 04/30/2003 4:02:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: billorites
I just met 3 new business partners from Nigeria!! You too??
8 posted on 04/30/2003 4:05:55 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: billorites
That email might be a hoax, or worse.

I've read on the internet about lots of guys who went to meet women and woke up the next day with surgical scars and missing kidneys!

9 posted on 04/30/2003 4:10:43 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: flying Elvis
A woman doctor who is also a friend had a husband who actually got on the net for hours every night until he
found himself a Russian "bride", deserted his wife &
children, took the doctor for everything he could wring
out of her and now lives with the Russian woman. I agree,
WHAT FOR?? The doctor is very attractive, makes great
money, but when a man gets addicted to looking at
retouched photos of "exotic" women on the prowl, he takes
what he can get out of the little wife and cuts and runs.
Or so it appears.
11 posted on 04/30/2003 4:12:45 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: Razwan
Nothing is dumber than a delusional,naïve man,wereas the third world woman is more predatory and devious than a snake!
I saw a documentary of a plane load of US men ,may of them lawyers,businessmen,professionals,who spent $20,000 each to travel to Moscow to meet these women.
Why ? when any islander or SA country,like Cuba,Brazil,Columbia,etc has mobs of women anxious to please!
12 posted on 04/30/2003 4:15:58 AM PDT by wiseone
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To: WaterDragon
"And, at the same time when Russian women have so much responsibilities, their husbands spend their whole time dozing in front of TV sets in desperate attempts to find out the meaning of life and to understand the truth of the universe."

Now I ask you: Where in American journalism you going to find insights like that, peoples?!
13 posted on 04/30/2003 4:22:41 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: flying Elvis
Your#6.................LOL

Time for a parody on these Russian brides. DFU, can you rework the lyrics of Fat Bottomed Girls by Queen to, "Mafioso Girls"

Nothing like brainwashed British and American 'Girls' that have been raised on Brit/U.S. T.V.

/sarcasm

14 posted on 04/30/2003 4:23:04 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Ken H
I've read on the internet about lots of guys who went to meet women and woke up the next day with surgical scars and missing kidneys!

You forgot to include the part about a note left at the scene for them to call a doctor ( or seek medical attetntion ).

15 posted on 04/30/2003 4:26:39 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: WaterDragon
When you're surrounded by rabid, man-hating femi-nazis Moscow starts to look very promising.
16 posted on 04/30/2003 4:27:40 AM PDT by freepy smurf (Sehr schwer.)
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To: ricpic
Moderator: Why did you remove comment #10? It was a wonderful, uplifting comment. What's going on here?
17 posted on 04/30/2003 4:28:51 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: billorites
When my Nigerian business partner comes through with the dough I'm going to send for her.

Maybe we could get together; I'm hoping your Nigerian business partner will be able to get me in touch with mine, who seems to have disappeared. I was supposed to get a lot of money deposited into my bank account, but something went wrong and I'm broke.

18 posted on 04/30/2003 4:30:18 AM PDT by trebb
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To: ricpic
He removed it at my request, I thought I gave too many details about my friend. I'll try again.

It hasn't anything to do with 'feminism.' It has to do with the fact that Russian gals, like everyone else, are looking for decent men, and sometimes decent men are considered too nerdy to be attractive in a competitive bride market here in the States.

Let me say this about Russian women (not from personal experience, mind you, Mrs. Jones is American born; but ...)

Two of my best friends married Russian gals. The first guy took a tour of Russia and just happened to meet a woman in Moscow. In the early 90s.

We assumed the worst. Greencard huntress, predator, fleeing the revolution at any price, yadda yadda.

Turned out she's and angel. And beautiful to boot. They've been married ten years, have a new baby, and couldn't be happier.

She introduced her best friend to another of our circle. They're married too--no kids, but still together after ten years. Both women live here in the States and are now American citizens, but only one (the first one) brought a relative--her mother, who helps care for the baby.

The two guys I know are perfectly happy, as are their wives. And God bless 'em for that.
19 posted on 04/30/2003 4:31:30 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones (longtime lurker finally comes up for air)
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To: ricpic
What did #10 say? Just curious so I don't make the same mistake.

Most of those men wanting a foreign bride through Internet or from foreign bars are losers who in their delusions think they are quite a hunk.

20 posted on 04/30/2003 4:34:57 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: wiseone
You are right on, on this. Your point holds true for Central America as well. I was amazed at the amount of super hot, dirt poor women in CA.
21 posted on 04/30/2003 4:40:35 AM PDT by Jonx6
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Good observation.

This article is not about mail order Russian brides. An interesting side note to this is that marriages between Russian men and American women are at a much higher risk of failure because of mirrored cultural weaknesses.

Generalizing about them, Russian men would probably be considered pigs here in America. They tend to be insensitive and autocratic towards their wives. I do know of one couple in this category though, that violates the generalization and is experiencing a good marriage.

22 posted on 04/30/2003 4:42:59 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: WaterDragon
There is something quite basic here that is nearly Strangeloveian. Let there be no doubt as to who won the Cold War. Or did Gorbachev plan this as well?
23 posted on 04/30/2003 4:50:21 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: wiseone
They are white.
24 posted on 04/30/2003 4:57:29 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: Tom Bombadil
"..Generalizing about them, Russian men would probably be considered pigs here in America."

Hordes of American women love rogue pigs too. Else Clinton would never have been elected, and RE-elected when the salient facts were in. Sick but true.
25 posted on 04/30/2003 4:58:36 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: freepy smurf
When you're surrounded by rabid, man-hating femi-nazis Moscow starts to look very promising.

Ha! Ha! That is funny.

26 posted on 04/30/2003 5:04:33 AM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: mlmr
"They are white."

You're correct that that is the perception. Strangely enough though, South America is plenty "white" in parts. In fact, I understand that Argentina is the "whitest" country in the world.

However, there is the latin cultural thing. Having been to the Ukraine and many parts of Latin America - I think we Americans share more of the uptight and cerebral Northern European cultural attitudes with Russians than we do with Latinas. Viva La Differencia!
27 posted on 04/30/2003 5:05:57 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: billorites
ROFL!!!!!!!
28 posted on 04/30/2003 5:06:28 AM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: WaterDragon
The whole of the burden, housekeeping, upbringing of children, earning of money are shifted onto women. And, at the time when Russian American women have so much responsibilities, their husbands spend their time dozing in front of TV sets in desperate attempts to find out the meaning of life and to understand the truth of the universe.
29 posted on 04/30/2003 5:13:42 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
I am currently being wooed by a Russian some friend of mine (maybe not anymore) signed me into the deal. Of course she will have to wait in line. It seems this mail order bride thingy he got me into, without my okay, also attracts mail order Taiwan, Chinese, et al. Of course they will also have to wait in line. Those diamond mines in Africa DO look like a good solid investment. And I COULD sell a car for a Nigerian and make a 2000 dollar profit by just doing the deal for his friend stuck in the states.

And of course there is the DNC and the donations they want to change the regime in the US. And then I have the whole Health care thing to pay for, and my EPA inspections on my brand new car. Then there is the SARS thing to worry about. It just seems to fill ones whole day.

Maybe I should just get me a Villa on the French Riviera and shout at passers-by, I can be just as rude. Moscow may be a good place for real estate, then I could avoid the whole mail order thing and marry direct.
30 posted on 04/30/2003 5:15:23 AM PDT by Michael121
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To: WaterDragon
I have a Nephew who married a Russian woman. She already lived here so might not be typical.

He is actually a smart and handsome guy but a little shy and nerdy. He comes from a conservative family and we were all shocked to learn of the marriage.

We finally got to meet her a few months ago and it was a pleasant surprise. She was not only attractive, she is also pleasant and seems rather conservative herself.

31 posted on 04/30/2003 5:16:16 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: WaterDragon
This article is based on mythology about Russian women,orthodox or not.

Once they get their two feet in the U.S.A. and they become Americanized, you are history Daddy-o.

32 posted on 04/30/2003 5:19:37 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (thanks for the green card,sucker.)
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To: freepy smurf
When you're surrounded by rabid, man-hating femi-nazis Moscow starts to look very promising.

LOL! The audio of Hitlery's recent screed comes to mind.

33 posted on 04/30/2003 5:20:20 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: WaterDragon
Each party gets what it wants to have. Husbands get authority and status, and wives are given, in exchange, peace in family and well-being. "Families of this kind where husbands are Americans and women are Russians prove to be long-living, as the roles in the family are clearly distributed and the mechanism operates good, although these are mixed families. In such families each of the couple is ready to make concessions and on the whole, wonderfully performs the role."

What is wrong with this? Nothing! There are many reasons for the high divorce rate in America, and the above seems to be part of the answer why. A husband without any real authority or respect from his wife is doomed to an unhappy marriage or divorce. The above description sounds similar to the Biblical role models that God commanded for husbands and wives.

34 posted on 04/30/2003 5:23:34 AM PDT by enemy of the people
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To: billorites
I married a wonderful woman from the Ukraine. She is a good wife and mother. So I would recommend this but be careful. Some of the websites that advertise beautiful Russian women are designed to separate you from your money! You may be emailing a beautiful woman that says all the right things and in fact you are corresponding with a guy. So be careful especially if you have not met the woman and she starts asking for money.
35 posted on 04/30/2003 5:23:52 AM PDT by txoilman
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To: WaterDragon
When an American man switches from the model of American family where husband and wife are partners equal in rights to the model of an Orthodox family, he thus raises his own significance. In Orthodox families men are given more authority and are more respected. It is certainly an advantage for a man and raises his social and psychological status. In a word, American men seem to have tired of the feminism propagated by American women, and it is frequent that they seek Russian women to start families.

Feminazi's strike again!

Fortunately, not all American women are feminazis.

36 posted on 04/30/2003 5:25:40 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: billorites
When my Nigerian business partner comes through with the dough I'm going to send for her.

Hey, you got one of those partners too?

37 posted on 04/30/2003 5:26:34 AM PDT by JimRed (Disinformation is the leftist's and enemy's friend; consider the source before believing.)
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To: wiseone
Why ? when any islander or SA country,like Cuba,Brazil,Columbia,etc has mobs of women anxious to please!

Probably because they want to marry a European, and not Mestizo. Use your brain - its good for you.

38 posted on 04/30/2003 5:27:43 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Constitution Day
When you're surrounded by rabid, man-hating femi-nazis Moscow starts to look very promising.

LOL! The audio of Hitlery's recent screed comes to mind.

Somebody needs to pave the way. Come 2008 (God forbid 2004), and if the 49% Clintonized electorate manages to put Hitlery in office - a massive segment of productive american men are going to be sitting it out in some less femi-Nazified country, if they're smart. They'll ALL look pretty good then.

39 posted on 04/30/2003 5:28:55 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: guitfiddlist
In fact, I understand that Argentina is the "whitest" country in the world.

Not realy. Try Iceland or Ireland or Poland, or any number of other European countires.

40 posted on 04/30/2003 5:30:48 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: txoilman
You may be emailing a beautiful woman that says all the right things and in fact you are corresponding with a guy.

I always thought Classygreeneyedblonde had an accent. :)

41 posted on 04/30/2003 5:32:14 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: WaterDragon

Victoria ag5650


Yulianna tg6694


Russian women are beautiful! Don't believe me? Go to BLue Sapphires.

42 posted on 04/30/2003 5:32:55 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: WaterDragon
This one is so easy to figure out, it's the same reason there are a lot of American men marrying Asian women.

The #1 quality men look for in women, is beauty. The #1 quality women look for in men, is wealth.

American men are attractive to women from Russia and Asia because even an average American income can afford lifestyles that overwhelming majority of men in those countries can't provide.

And American men wants these women because there is a finite supply of attractive women in America, and mostly taken by the wealthy and/or attractive males. So the average looking middle class guy has the choice of either the average looking middle class American women, or the really attractive girls from Russia/Asia, and guess who wins out.



43 posted on 04/30/2003 5:33:28 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
"In fact, I understand that Argentina is the "whitest" country in the world.

Not realy. Try Iceland or Ireland or Poland, or any number of other European countires.

"....Most sources report Argentina's population as 97 per cent white (mostly of Spanish and Italian descent) and three percent mestizo (Amerindian' and European), Amerindian, or other nonwhite groups...." (from http://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/SouthAmerica/argentina01.htm)

I would think 97% white would top most European nations' percentages these days.

44 posted on 04/30/2003 5:39:54 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: guitfiddlist
I once did a report on Paraguay while a Geography major.

One thing which struck me was that country had the highest percentage of Europeans of any Latin American country.

45 posted on 04/30/2003 5:44:50 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: enemy of the people
What is wrong with this? Nothing! There are many reasons for the high divorce rate in America, and the above seems to be part of the answer why. A husband without any real authority or respect from his wife is doomed to an unhappy marriage or divorce. The above description sounds similar to the Biblical role models that God commanded for husbands and wives>>

I agree with you on the larger comment that this is a Biblical model that yields happy results, but your off the mark a bit by pointing out that it is women that drop their roles(respecting their husbands, etc). I know plenty of couples where the men are eager to get their hands on that second income and encourage if not manipulate their wives into working, not to mention the men who are lazy and slovenly and spend no time being a leader to their family even if their wives are home. They prefer instead the computer and the tv. So before we blame women for dropping the ball, let's also talk about how men have dropped the ball too. Women being cynical and all that did not happen in a vacuum. If you guys have the authority and want it, then for God's sake, take it back and start behaving like you deserve it by being leaders! I have seen woman after woman respond when their husband's turned to the Lord and took on their rightful role(and this is not some domineering husband w/control on everything, but a man who is the leader in his family, particularly spiritually, and who loves his wife as Christ loved the church(not his computer, tv, car, etc). They were men who stepped into the role of mutual submission and Christlike love.

Sorry for the rant, but I'm so sick of the whining of men on Freerepublic. So many of them are so willing to blame women for all the ills of the country and family, yet they won't address just how pathetic men act nowadays too. How far from the Biblical model many men are.
46 posted on 04/30/2003 5:49:58 AM PDT by glory
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To: guitfiddlist
"....Most sources report Argentina's population as 97 per cent white (mostly of Spanish and Italian descent) and three percent mestizo (Amerindian' and European), Amerindian, or other nonwhite groups...." (from http://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/SouthAmerica/argentina01.htm)

I would think 97% white would top most European nations' percentages these days.

the subject guys are likely seeking a 'northern european' look; for at least some of the seekers, there are distinctions among caucasians....

47 posted on 04/30/2003 5:50:40 AM PDT by 1234 (Border Control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: Truthsearcher
It is a good deal if an average guy gets a pretty Russian girl. The problem comes later after she learns English, and watch Oprah. Then she turns into a high mentainance bitch. The little student starts to talk back to the teacher? Takes half of his money, and trades him to a better looking American man!
48 posted on 04/30/2003 5:52:40 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: guitfiddlist
You know, something you said here has me thinking on another topic. We live in an area with wonderfully conservative schools--some of the best in the area to boot academically, but I'm still inclined to homeschool. Part of the reason is I really believe that shrill b*tch will be prez someday and I fear for EVERY school then with what she will do. Even the most conservative and best I think will look more like the liberal model once she's done with them. I see her pushing out any last bit of power local school boards and parents have on their schools in favor of NEA ideals. I don't see homeschool being outlawed, but severly restricted and maybe even "capped" where only existing homeschooling families may finish up(sorry, I don't have a lot of trust in this woman at all). On that same note, we are also remodeling our home as we would like, paying the note down in order to refinance for a lower payment, and saving money like the dickens in preparation for possible retirment when and if she comes in office. We just don't want to be anywhere near a place of business when she takes her place as queen, I mean president.
49 posted on 04/30/2003 5:56:56 AM PDT by glory
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To: guitfiddlist
Hordes of American women love rogue pigs too.

It goes to that whole "I can change him" mentality. Guess what, women? You can't change him!

50 posted on 04/30/2003 5:58:06 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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