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To: Skywalk
As long as you don't care that the woman you are bringing over has zip as far as any deep love for you goes, and may vote her liberal instincts, adding to the female voter problem we already face, then go for it.

I have seen very few work out. At my son's birthday party at a skating rink, this stranger a booth away in the snack bar moved to my table and spent a couple of boring hours crying over his mail order brides Americanization, she dumped him after he got her entire family over here. Now she won't let him see his kid.

I guess the lure of having a female totally dependent on you and the hope for future loyalty is pretty potent. They learn to speak english, train for jobs, have affairs, and leave when they are ready. I don't know what the stats are, but I feel pretty sure most guys end up just being a way station to a new life.
200 posted on 05/05/2004 7:56:34 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Not sure where you're getting liberal instincts--wouldn't that more accurately describe Western women? That's just way out in left field, so I'm not seeing the source for your thoughts on this.

As for any deep love? Again--I've had women who've had deep love and maybe moderate love for me. It's gotten me squat, thus far. Also, I think that we all tend to extrapolate from our personal experience of "hearing things." How do you know that in certain cases, there isn't deep love? It hasn't always taken me years on years to form a loving bond with someone. this guy doesn't sound THAT much different than your average divorcee--his mistake was letting her talk him into bringing family over. Also, no man should be so deluded as to bring a 19 year old woman over when he is 45 and think that it's a lock cinch. Do you know the statistics? I wouldn't be so confident because you've seen some bad cases(how many have you seen by the way, I imagine more than I have, although I may not have known when I saw them)


Does a woman give a guy who makes significantly less than her a CHANCE To love and be loved? Doubtful. Yet a man would marry a woman who swept floors, as long as she was passably attractive and had a good nature(and depending on the man if she was intellectually curious or enjoyed movies or music---you know those other elements)

The fact is, marriage is a waystation for most women. The vast majority of women "marry up." That means the guy sweeping floors, no matter how much philosophy he reads or how kind he is, is relegated to only the women who make less than he does and come from the same lower social strata. There is a phenomenon in America called "Starter marriage" now. We can excuse it all we want, but marriage is already impermanent but often for no real solid reason.

But your last paragraph is yet more of the indirect insulting of men who may merely not want to be alone or forsaken on a whim. These guys, with only some exceptions, are not merely looking for someone to be "Dependent" on them for their "future." They may be looking to be traditional providers, hardly a sin. They may be looking for a woman who is not trying to compete with him professionally or economically--again, not a sin. They may want someone who will stay home and not whine when she has to make food, as opposed to many women who will stay home then bitch to the husband about how he needs to now help with the housework.

Again, maybe these guys are lonely? Maybe they don't want to settle for whoever will divorce them the quickest? Maybe they don't like certain cultural attitudes here? It COULD be that, you know.

201 posted on 05/05/2004 8:08:17 AM PDT by Skywalk
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