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Students try 'Archie Bunker's Neighborhood': a taste of discrimination in the real world
The Holland Sentinel ^ | April 30, 2003 | JASON MILLER

Posted on 04/30/2003 7:10:30 AM PDT by new cruelty

Vicky Sivoravong had a fairly easy time securing bank loans and building permits Tuesday as she tried to create a harmonious neighborhood on a classroom floor at Grand Valley State University.

Thank goodness, she said, that she got to be Caucasian.

"What I got from this was that there are advantages to being white, at least in this (program)," Sivoravong said Tuesday after taking part in a "diversity dialogue" at the Calling All Colors Spring 2003 event. "I don't think it's that way in real life, though."

Along with many other middle school students from Ottawa and Muskegon counties, the 14-year-old Macatawa Bay School student took part Tuesday in the Lakeshore Ethnic Diversity Alliance-sponsored program designed to raise awareness of racism.

Partaking in an activity titled "Archie Bunker's Neighborhood," Sivoravong and other students were assigned different ethnicities and told to deal with the unfairness that exists in the "real world" when it comes to securing money and permission needed to build a diverse neighborhood as a minority.

The day-long program also included the presentation of action plans drawn up at last fall's event along with cooperative games and presentations.

In the neighborhood dialogue, students were given certain areas of property within the classroom along with differing amounts of money and told to deal with bankers and building authority officials who were instructed by organizers to be hostile and unfair to "non-white" participants.

While students tabbed as African-American, Hispanic, Native American and Asian American were thrown in "jail" for petty offenses and "swindled" out of money and opportunities by "white" officials, most students realized that what was happening in their experiment wasn't a true reflection of how they saw the real world.

They did, however, realize the problem existed.

"I think racism happens in the real world, but I think it all depends on a person and their beliefs," said Ana Vazquez, a 13-year-old Macatawa Bay student. "I don't think it's this extreme like that normally. Discrimination isn't just because of color."

Rachel Howe, an eighth-grade teacher in Grand Haven, has been moderating at Calling All Colors for six years and said the dialogue, which was based on the 1970s television show "All in the Family" in which the lead character had racist tendencies, was portrayed the way it was to let children know that unfairness exists in the world.

She said the dialogue was not designed to portray whites in a negative light, but to show students how to deal with racism.

"We're just trying to make them aware than discrimination does occur," she said. "They need this experience so when they're put in the real world they'll be able to recognize it and do something about it."

While "minorities" were overcharged and bilked out of money by students acting as bankers and housing officials, many were thrown in jail for petty offenses and not given the chance to bail out.

That, said Holland West Middle School student Breea Root, was the most infuriating aspect of the exercise for her.

"It's just not fair they put us in here and then raise the bail so high that we can't afford it because they keep taking all of our money," she said. "What this is saying to me is that white people get better treatment all around.

"I hope that's not the way it really is."


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Aw, geez, not this $#!+ again.

1 posted on 04/30/2003 7:10:30 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
Rachel Howe, an eighth-grade teacher in Grand Haven, has been moderating at Calling All Colors for six years and said the dialogue, which was based on the 1970s television show "All in the Family" in which the lead character had racist tendencies, was portrayed the way it was to let children know that unfairness exists in the world.

Yes, Rachel, there is unfairness in the world.

It’s unfair that children should be spoon-fed the type of asinine, biased, grossly inaccurate, victim-soaked agenda that morons like you dole out.

Fortunately, judging from their responses, not many of them are buying the crap you’re selling.

2 posted on 04/30/2003 7:16:53 AM PDT by dead
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To: new cruelty
What a brilliant idea! Create a rigged system which demonstrated that:

1)all white people are prejudiced and that
2)all black people are victims.

This will be really useful to show students (via cold objective reality) that

1)all white people are prejudiced and that
2)all black people are vctims.

3 posted on 04/30/2003 7:18:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: new cruelty
"What I got from this was that there are advantages to being white, at least in this (program)," Sivoravong said Tuesday after taking part in a "diversity dialogue" at the Calling All Colors Spring 2003 event. "I don't think it's that way in real life, though."

Looks like the kids aren't as dumb and malleable as the Communists had hoped.

4 posted on 04/30/2003 7:18:13 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: new cruelty
how freakin sad and disgusting at the same time

what's next kids pretending to be murderers and rapists?
5 posted on 04/30/2003 7:18:15 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: walkingman
You think too much. You will soon be visited by nice men who will help you understand the value of PC thought.
7 posted on 04/30/2003 7:25:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: walkingman
"And didn't the Jeffersons "Move on up to a deeelux apartment in the sky"? "

yes, no thanks to that cross burning, hood wearing, white supremacist, paleoconservative, rightwing, gun toting, republican hate-monger.

< /sarcasm, just in case some were wondering>

9 posted on 04/30/2003 7:28:29 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: ClearCase_guy
I always loved it when Archie chewed out the young liberal meathead who dated his daughter. LOL!!!
10 posted on 04/30/2003 7:30:06 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: new cruelty
A few items that probably weren't covered.

1. A white student applying to...oh, pick a college.
2. A white applicant for a job at a network television studio.
3. Starting up a Miss White America Beauty pageant.
4. Starting up a United White College Fund.
5. Starting a movement to have automobile horns and geese outlawed because they "honk."
6. Requiring anyone who uses an automobile horn to attend sensitivity training because whenever whites hear a horn it lowers their self esteem.

11 posted on 04/30/2003 7:31:52 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: new cruelty
students tabbed as African-American, Hispanic, Native American and Asian American were thrown in "jail" for petty offenses and "swindled" out of money and opportunities by "white" officials

She said the dialogue was not designed to portray whites in a negative light, but to show students how to deal with racism.

Rachel Howe, an eighth-grade teacher in Grand Haven, is not only a bigot, she's a liar.

13 posted on 04/30/2003 7:36:36 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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While "minorities" were overcharged and bilked out of money by students acting as bankers and housing officials, many were thrown in jail for petty offenses and not given the chance to bail out.

No doubt the white "majority" students were robbed of their lunch money, raped in the bathrooms, and had their TVs and VCRs stolen while they were in gym class. And when their project was graded, of course the minority students got a good share of the white folks' grade. All the while the teacher was stomping around whining about how unfair life is to the minorities.

If you're going to show the REAL world, show ALL of it.

14 posted on 04/30/2003 7:41:25 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: new cruelty
As an alum of Grand Valley State (and a resident of the area where these school districts are), I am angry that such garbage is taught. Now, I realize this is nothing new and not even all that shocking when considering all the other trash taught to our children. This gives me yet one more reason why we homeschool.
15 posted on 04/30/2003 7:41:28 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: new cruelty
It sounds like the children have a better grip on reality than their teachers. Can't have that. Let the indoctrination begin.

(I'd love to see the town where Asians are discriminated against as depicted in this excercise.)

16 posted on 04/30/2003 7:45:27 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: IronJack
If you're going to show the REAL world, show ALL of it.

Can't do that. No sir. If they showed the children the real world, the kids might get the impression that there are actually rational reasons for some of this behavior.

17 posted on 04/30/2003 7:48:23 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: walkingman
"Meanwhile Archie was still stuck at the docks with Stretch."

Scarlett O'Hara now drives a towmotor for nine bucks an hour while Mammie and her descendants fill nearly every local government office in the south and look forward to state retirement. Scarlett can only look forward to working until she falls off the towmotor. (Commenting on the facts is not racism.)
18 posted on 04/30/2003 7:52:40 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Mercy on a pore boy lemme have a dollar bill!)
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To: new cruelty
One can imagine Goebbels creating such an exercise for young Germans to demonstrate the unfair advantages of the wealthy German Jews.

"What I got from this was that there are advantages to being Jewish"
19 posted on 04/30/2003 7:55:38 AM PDT by 3LostLegions
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To: new cruelty
Wow, it sounds like Ms. Howe is some kind of running-dog, lick-spittle lackey for her hate mongering Stalinist masters.

Actually, it sounds as if Ms. Howe is 'The Pig'.

20 posted on 04/30/2003 7:56:18 AM PDT by martin gibson
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