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To: tpaine
"What is your objection to Rands ideas..."

The objection is found in the complete quote:

"We hold these truths to be self evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Ayn Rand doesn't believe in God or religion. Without religious moral guidance, the "pursuit of happiness" is pretty wide open, wouldn't you say?

369 posted on 05/02/2003 7:21:33 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
"pursuit of happiness" is pretty wide open, wouldn't you say?

As it should be.

371 posted on 05/02/2003 7:27:41 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: robertpaulsen
"We hold these truths to be self evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Where would objection lie if the Declaration held Jeffersons original phrase, "endowed by their nature" rather than by "their creator"?

373 posted on 05/02/2003 7:29:51 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: robertpaulsen; Ga Rob
Ayn Rand doesn't believe in God or religion. Without religious moral guidance, the "pursuit of happiness" is pretty wide open, wouldn't you say?
-rp-

I'd you've pretty well confirmed the truth of 'Ga Rob's earlier point, where he said:


"I may be jumping in the deep end here but here goes anyway...
....It seems to me that the conservatives who despise Rand are the Morality police, religous nuts..."live your life my way or your going to hell"(whatever that might be) folks that will continue to turn more tolerant people off from our cause."


417 posted on 05/02/2003 9:53:45 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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