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***Operation Infinite Freedom - Situation Room - 4 MAY 03/Day 46 - LIVE THREAD***
Everywhere! | 4 MAY 03 | null and void

Posted on 05/03/2003 9:00:35 PM PDT by null and void

Operation Infinite Freedom


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Good Morning.

This is the Daily Thread of Operation Infinite Freedom, formerly Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - LIVE THREAD.

It is designed for general conversation about the ongoing war on terror, and the related events of the day. In depth discussion of events should be left to individual threads - but links to the threads or other articles is highly encouraged. This allows us to stay abreast of the situation in general, while also providing a means of obtaining specific information.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baghdadbob; bellygirl; flatwisk; freedom; iraq; longroundbuildings; saddam
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Operation Infinite Freedom


Link to the previous thread

Good Morning.

This is the Daily Thread of Operation Infinite Freedom, formerly Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - LIVE THREAD.

It is designed for general conversation about the ongoing war on terror, and the related events of the day. In depth discussion of events should be left to individual threads - but links to the threads or other articles is highly encouraged. This allows us to stay abreast of the situation in general, while also providing a means of obtaining specific information.

1 posted on 05/03/2003 9:00:35 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
Stand in review:

http://www.jeffhead.com/iraqifreedom/victory.htm
2 posted on 05/03/2003 9:01:28 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; Aaron0617; ...
ping
3 posted on 05/03/2003 9:04:58 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
many thanks to fellow freeper JeffHead for the excellent pics.
4 posted on 05/03/2003 9:06:51 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG
They are really great.
5 posted on 05/03/2003 9:12:42 PM PDT by MEG33
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Thanks nully for the new thread. I was waiting. I did not turn my television on until late in the afternoon. The first thing I saw was Al Sharpton saying that he was going to slap the donkey. I thought, oh yeah, you will certainly be our next President. And then this Kucinich singing a patriotic song solo. Oh this is going to be fun.

Democratic presidential hopefuls Dick Gephardt, left, Bob Graham, center, and John Kerry in Columbia, S.C., on Friday night.

Democrats discuss Iraq early in debate

COLUMBIA, South Carolina (AP) -- The nine Democrats vying for the White House clashed over the U.S.-led war against Iraq and the threat posed by Saddam Hussein Saturday night in an ultra early primary debate in which they hope to distinguish themselves from the pack.

6 posted on 05/03/2003 9:16:18 PM PDT by TexKat
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Kucinich is my favorite! In a tank, he'd look dead on Dukakis, who I still think is the ultimate democrat loser of all time. I will never forget Dukakis and his tank, you can bet the dems will follow a similar theme this year and look just as stupid. Looks like Sharpton's there just to make them look "tough on defense" by comparison.
7 posted on 05/03/2003 9:34:12 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever (Boycott france and russia for at least 20 years)
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To: MEG33
here's more from Jeff:

http://www.jeffhead.com/iraqifreedom/stamps.htm
8 posted on 05/03/2003 9:36:56 PM PDT by fightinJAG
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Beautiful!
9 posted on 05/03/2003 9:37:48 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever (Boycott france and russia for at least 20 years)
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To: fightinJAG
good morning all. The pictures are great.
10 posted on 05/03/2003 9:38:41 PM PDT by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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President Bush and Australian Prime Minister John Howard in Crawford, Texas, on Saturday.

Bush: U.S. will find banned Iraqi weapons - May. 3, 2003

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- As the United States plans to send 1,000 experts to Iraq to aid troops in the hunt for weapons of mass destruction, President Bush said Saturday that he is confident the U.S. will demonstrate that Iraq built chemical and biological weapons under Saddam Hussein's rule.

11 posted on 05/03/2003 9:39:32 PM PDT by TexKat
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Fantastic collection of pictures. Thanks so much for sharing with us.
12 posted on 05/03/2003 9:52:24 PM PDT by TexKat
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| Analysis: Washington's demands on Syria - BBC News 3/3/03.

US Secretary of State Colin Powell speaks of a new dynamic in the Middle East. It is not surprising that Damascus was his first stop in the region since the fall of Saddam Hussein.

13 posted on 05/03/2003 10:18:53 PM PDT by TexKat
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Hezbollah TV ejected

Damascus |Reuters | 04-05-2003

U.S. officials barred the crew of Hezbollah television from a briefing by U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell in Syria, which supports the militant faction, a TV crew member said yesterday.

A diplomatic source confirmed that Al Manar, a Hezbollah mouthpiece, was not allowed to take part in the media briefing by Powell.

"The woman in charge of the U.S. cultural centre in Damascus came to me and asked me are you with Al Manar television? I said yes. She said your presence here is not permitted," a member of the Al Manar crew said.

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/news.asp?ArticleID=86388

14 posted on 05/03/2003 10:29:36 PM PDT by TexKat
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Hi all

Well, it is about time that we do a bit of something about Hezbollah. It seems that banning their TV crew is pretty lame, but I guess it qualifies as a start.
15 posted on 05/03/2003 10:41:44 PM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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Where Hezbollah is loved, respected -GN Online

Here in southern Lebanon, where portraits of suicide bombers hang from power poles and an abandoned Israeli prison has become a tourist attraction, Hezbollah is viewed as the guardian of liberation and the provider of social services.

Mohammed Nayef, 33, welcomed the Israelis who invaded Lebanon in 1982 to drive out Yasser Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organisation, then turned against them when they stayed on as occupiers for 18 years.

16 posted on 05/03/2003 10:42:14 PM PDT by TexKat
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Hi AFPhys, I think they have begun to try to do something about Hezbollah.
17 posted on 05/03/2003 10:47:04 PM PDT by TexKat
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I'm finally getting a chance to watch Friday's FR parade.

I wish I could have played with you all.
18 posted on 05/03/2003 10:57:25 PM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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WAR WITH IRAQ War foes back U.S. plan for Iraq

By Robert Wielaard | The Associated Press

Posted May 4, 2003

KASTELLORIZO, Greece -- France and Germany, America's harshest critics of the Iraq war, halfheartedly endorsed a U.S. plan Saturday to divide Iraq into three zones and deploy a stabilization force -- one that excludes them.

After an EU foreign-ministers meeting dominated by debate on the dismal state of trans-Atlantic affairs, German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said a stabilization force by a "coalition of the willing" did not diminish Berlin's wish for the United Nations to play a key role in rebuilding Iraq.

"This is not a new situation and is not in contradiction with our discussion about giving the United Nations a role in postwar Iraq," Fischer said after the meeting, held on a yacht off a tiny Greek Aegean island.

French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin told reporters that bringing in stabilization troops from countries other than the United States and Britain simply "widens the number of countries on the ground."

The United States said it planned to set up an international force in three regions of Iraq, with Poland and Britain controlling two zones and U.S. forces the third. Denmark, the Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Bulgaria and Ukraine would also provide troops.

Polish Foreign Minister Wlodzimierz Cimoszewiczs said, "This is a fresh responsibility for my country, but we are ready to share it."

Poland, which joins the European Union next year, "would prefer" a U.N. Security Council resolution endorsing the stabilization force, but the initiative should be able to go ahead without one, Cimoszewiczs said.

The American plan not only put into sharper focus the prospect that the U.N. role in Iraq will be limited to providing humanitarian aid, but also underlined Europe's weakness to influence Iraq's postwar development. The EU wanted to bring the United Nations into that process.

Trans-Atlantic relations dominated the session, where EU nations engaged in sometimes frank exchanges about their inability to influence U.S. thinking about global issues.

"The meeting revealed a divergence in relations between Europe and the Americans that is not just about Iraq," a diplomat said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official spoke of a "segregation" between Europe and the United States and "the need for Europeans to speak with a single voice on the world stage."

To repair relations with Washington, the EU ministers said they would draft a broad security strategy to deal with such issues as terrorism and the spread of weapons of mass destruction. The aim is to give Europe "a sense of direction" and narrow differences with Washington about global-security issues, Greek Foreign Minister George Papandreou, the meeting's host, said afterward.

At the request of France, Germany and Belgium, the ministers had a first discussion of a greater EU defense role, a possibility that concerns U.S. officials who fear it could erode the NATO alliance.

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw surprised other EU members by saying that beefing up Europe's military posture was not a problem, as long as it occurred in tandem with NATO -- not in competition, officials said. In separate meetings, Straw briefed Fischer and de Villepin on the Iraq stabilization force.

"We see a vital role for the United Nations in humanitarian relief," Straw told reporters after the meeting.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/orl-aseczones04050403may04,0,7777043.story?coll=orl-news-headlines

19 posted on 05/03/2003 11:14:29 PM PDT by TexKat
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The posters who treated us to all the pics are really great.The media and the head of the DNC are wailing over the the President's trip to the Lincoln.It was so great to know THEY know how we just loved the whole thing!Eat your hearts out cynics and leftys.
20 posted on 05/03/2003 11:26:22 PM PDT by MEG33
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