Unlocking The Matrix [SPOILERS]

Time Magazine ^ | May 12,2003 Issue | RICHARD CORLISS

[Captain Peter Blood]

Flanked by Trinity and Morpheus, Neo meets the Merovingian and his luscious wife Persephone (Monica Bellucci). The Merovingian is a Frenchman out of the Bush Administration bestiary: cruel, supercilious, with a love of cursing in French—which he describes as like "wiping your ass with silk." He refuses to release the Key Maker.

[Captain Peter Blood]

This is an excerpt from Time Magazine on the new "Matrix" Movies coming out. AS I was reading this review I came upon this paragraph and I about flipped out. Although these kind of camparisons are nothing new it just goes to illustrate the kind of Liberal-Left Wing Hate of the President and his Administration with this kind of childish diatribe, You can hit the URL for the complete Review of the Movie.

[Brian Mosely]

You think that's bad...check out all the reviews of the new X-men movie that compares the Mutant Registration Act to the Patriot Act....

[pierrem15]

Mutant Registration Act

So to the liberals, if you have super human powers, you're not as much of a public menace as a gun owner, eh?

[William McKinley]

ARGH

I shouldn't have read this. I really shouldn't have.

No, it's not the spoilers that are the reason I should not have.

Some of their actors are also reluctant to break the code. Fishburne: "I can't talk to you about them." (The brothers not only created a cult, they practically are one.) Others are less guarded. "They're not comic-book nerds," Pinkett Smith avers. "They're intellectuals. These cats study. Larry reads everything! When you think you've got him figured out, he pops something else out on you, like ... Cornel West!?"

Larry was such a fan of West's books Prophesy Deliverance and Race Matters that he wrote a role for West in Reloaded. So last April, the Princeton professor flew to Sydney to play Councillor West in an action blockbuster. For the teacher, it was quite an education.

I will never respect The Matrix again.

[El Sordo]

Remember the first X-Men movie? The political villan was a Republican Senator from Kansas named Bob.

[William McKinley]

See #4. Tell me it ain't so!

[Brian Mosely]

Line from 1st X-men movie (from memory)

Senaotr Kelly: (on phone) But Senator, you favor gun registration don't you? Well, some of these kids posesses 10 times the power of any handgun.....no, I don't see a difference, all I see are weapons in our schools...

[rdb3]

If Cornel West has a part, I will not view the movie.

And today was a good day...

[ewing]

Man the twist at the end is going to set off a lot of people..

[GunRunner]

Why is it any worse than "Luke, I am your Father."

I can't believe I read those dang spoilers. I just can't control myself.

[ewing]

Me too, I now wish I didnt know..

[Petronski]

The Matrix also caught the wrathful attention of moral watchdogs when the fatal shootings at Columbine High School occurred a few weeks after the movie's opening, and it appeared that the two perpetrating teens had seen the film—as had 15 million people who didn't kill anyone.

Paging Michael Moore.

[GunRunner]

What I'm wondering is how they are going to get around the fact that the lady who played the Oracle died recently. If she is the so called "Mother of the Matrix" and has deceived everyone, then she must have to play a large part in the next film. I wonder if they'll cast someone new or attempt to use FX to recreate her character.

[ewing]

I think she died after filming one of the sequels..

[vikingchick]

I was just watching "Charlie Rose" with the Matrix cast. You'd think these people had just invented the Greatest Religion in the Universe the way they went on about themselves.

Hey, Keanu, Carrie and Laurence....get over yourselves. It's just a movie. You are not our saviors. Big LOL!

[Skywalk]

Well, if the story is that the rebellion ITSELF is part of the Matrix, then they REALLY aren't our saviors.

That's kind of a hopeless conclusion and quite dismal.

It fits in much more with Eastern religions than the West, well except gnosticism. If the entire world is a big deception, from the POV of the movie, then the entire trilogy is a big waste.

Darth was Luke's dad, but at least all the characters' actions MEANT something. If everyone in the rebellion are fools, it renders all their actions and all their sacrifices meaningless.

Kind of like a bad series finale, where someone wakes up and discovers it was really just a dream.

[Skywalk]

Oh and the problem some people had with the Matrix wasn't the overall level of violence, but the scene where Neo and Trinity cooly slaughter unwitting security guards. Not a touch of remorse, not a hint that their lives were valuable, no ATTEMPT to find a way to avoid taking the lives of people who did not know the role they were playing.

Nope, just slaughter them with cool looks and black sunglasses. For all the myth those involved with the Matrix invoke, I don't see where THAT type of action fits in with any myth I respect.

[tictoc]

Will you two get over yourselves!

It's a Hollywood movie, with hundreds of people collaborating. Who cares if one of them is an overrated academic that Harvard had the good sense to kiss goodbye?

Me, I'm enjoying the web site Warner Bros. put together for the Matrix.

In addition to being handsomely designed with lots of eye candy (including animated mini-films), it has some thought-provoking essays that touch on philosophical questions here.

I especially enjoyed the one called What's so bad about living inside the Matrix? by James Pryor.

[rdb3]

Will you two get over yourselves!

It's a Hollywood movie, with hundreds of people collaborating. Who cares if one of them is an overrated academic that Harvard had the good sense to kiss goodbye?

Again, if Cornel West has a part in this movie, I refuse to see it.

[William McKinley]

Get over myself, because I would boycott something over the dispicable Cornell West?

What a strange reaction on your part.

[eddie willers]

get over yourselves. It's just a movie.

I saw it.
Thought..."Nice sound effects...too much Kung Fu".

I don't get the cult following.
(Though I never "got" Star Wars either....nice Saturday Matinee Movie...nothing to write home about IMO)

[vikingchick]

too much Kung Fu It looks like it from the trailers. I can only take so much.

[Tatze]

Did anyone see the Matrix thread the other day "new MATRIX movie disses the President"? It has been pulled, but I was wondering if there was any truth to it. Given that it was pulled, I tend to think it wasnt, but I dont want to spend money on this movie if it is true.

The gist of the thread was about a scene where they are talking about the worst people of humanity or something like that, with TV screens in the background showing some of the people they consider the worst. The TV screens show Hitler and Bush, maybe more. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not??

[Pelayo]

The TV screens show Hitler and Bush, maybe more. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not??

Harry Knowles' review over at AICN mentions it.

[scoopscandal]

I just saw Reloaded last night. I thought that was Cornell West. How disturbing.

BTW...Reloaded is not Matrix. I didn't care for it. The fight scenes were so long, I thought I was watching a music video. It was weird. There's a Zion orgy scene that kind of turned me off too. That's not Matrix. It was just weird.

Did I mention it was weird?

[Question_Assumptions]

Oh and the problem some people had with the Matrix wasn't the overall level of violence, but the scene where Neo and Trinity cooly slaughter unwitting security guards.

Yeah, that bothered me, too. There is a scene in Goldeneye that I had a similar reaction to. James Bond gunning down Soviet soldiers and agents trying to kill him is one thing. James Bond gunning down a bunch of Russian police officers just doing their job is another.

[Dialup Llama]

>Oh and the problem some people had with the Matrix wasn't the overall level of violence, but the scene where Neo and Trinity cooly slaughter unwitting security guards.

That scene is an Al-Queda blueprint attack on an office building in the US. What is more disturbing is that scene is preceeded by a depiction of an aircraft crashing into a skyscraper. Looked cool when it first came out. After 9-11, terrorists (which is what Morpheus is) aren't so cool.

[Skywalk]

Compare the actions of Luke in Jabba's palace, giving Jabba several chances to hand over Han Solo without getting killed, and how he dealt with his father(non-violence and persuasion first) to Neo and Trinity's cold-hearted slaughter of innocent security guards.

Or more recently, compare the Terminator in T2 disabling police without killing them to that.

I can't stomach a story where the hero has no regard for people he should know are innocent of the evil that he targets.

[Pelayo]

Oh and the problem some people had with the Matrix wasn't the overall level of violence, but the scene where Neo and Trinity cooly slaughter unwitting security guards. Not a touch of remorse, not a hint that their lives were valuable, no ATTEMPT to find a way to avoid taking the lives of people who did not know the role they were playing.

Well they may not have shown any remorse which is disturbing but, if you follow the explanation of the nature of the Matrix in the first movie, you would know that they don't really have the option of trying to save them. Because anyone of them could become an Agent at any time, they need to kill them quickly before it becomes impossible. They couldn't just give them all red pills, because that would take to long and as Morpheus explained it's not safe to disconnect someone who's fully grown anyway. All the pain they caused the guards was technically illusory anyway, all Neo and Trinity actually did was shut down their minds.

[Ipberg]

Did anyone see the Matrix thread the other day "new MATRIX movie disses the President"? It has been pulled, but I was wondering if there was any truth to it. Given that it was pulled, I tend to think it wasnt, but I dont want to spend money on this movie if it is true.

Yes. George W. Bush flashes on the screen right after Mussolini and Hitler. I've just returned from seeing the movie. The worst part is that I wasn't even watching for the controversial moment: it's that easy to pick out.
However I'm in Canada. Perhaps it was pulled only from American viewings?

[Hildy]

Can anyone else verify this? If this is true, it would be unprecedented that a movie would label a SITTING President in those terms.

[paulklenk]

Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time tells the story of a cosmologist whose speech is interrupted by a little old lady who informs him that the universe rests on the back of a turtle. "Ah, yes, madame," the scientist replies, "but what does the turtle rest on?" The old lady shoots back: "You can't trick me, young man. It's nothing but turtles, turtles, turtles, all the way down."

[chichipow]

Don't ask me how they got the captures.

[LayoutGuru2]

A thread was pulled!?!?!?

I hope just because it was a duplicate.

Hey folks, help me out and throw me some links on this Matrix Hitler/Bush B.S.

See my post here:

Matrix Reloaded. Has Anybody seen it?
			Posted by LayoutGuru2 to ikka On News/Activism 05/15/2003 10:59 PM PDT #12 of 18

[Tatze]

new MATRIX movie disses the President

This thread has been pulled.

Pulled on 05/13/2003 7:16 PM EDT by Admin Moderator, reason:

Please do not post from DU here. Thanks.

[Tatze]

The images werent pulled from the movie, the thread on FR that exposed it was pulled.

[goldstategop]

And the Admin Mod now censors exposes? Wow I have in mind things to say about this foolishness but I don't want to get banned from here. Is he sure it came from DU? Even if it was, why wouldn't we want to know what the enemy is thinking? Something doesn't compute here.

[Tatze]

In general, they dont like repost's from DU (DummiesUnlimited). But it didnt seem like it was from there, and the subject matter, Im sure, was of interest to people here.

Im now trying to decide if I want to support this movie. The original was great and Ive been anticipating the sequels, but I may just be too disgusted to go see it.

[Sloth]

I don't remember the images on the screen being anything negative in particular... it was just a jumble of historical images. I don't think it was a slam on Bush (or if it was, it was a pitifully weak one).

[Bogey78O]

'That scene is an Al-Queda blueprint attack on an office building in the US'

So how are they gonna do the cool back flips and such?

[homefield]

It was definately an attack on the current President Bush. I saw it the night it came out in the US, and it was clearly recognizable that it was him. Although it was not up long, it was safe to say that over half the audience recognized the dig at the President as well as the context that it was in--that President Bush was a negative part of human history. A rather childish attack IMO.

[cilbupeR_eerF]

...that President Bush was a negative part of human history. A rather childish attack IMO.

Childish? You dont thay.

How 'bout damnable, corrupt, malevolent, destructive, heinous, obscene, malicious, revolting, viscious, or just plain wrong.

[Dialup Llama]

>>'That scene is an Al-Queda blueprint attack on an office building in the US'
>So how are they gonna do the cool back flips and such?

Have you ever heard of anyone getting shot while doing a cartwheel? Of course not. One of the rules of Hong Kong martial arts films is that doing cartwheels protects you from bullets.

[Sloth]

Paranoid.

[Treeless Branch]

I disagree. It fits in better with Christianity. Jesus came to show us that the material world is not real. That is, there is no physical law. That is why he walked on water. That is why he healed. That is why he raised himself from the dead.

Jesus did not want to be worshipped. He was the Way-shower.

Neo does the same, shows physical laws are not real, but an illusion of the clouded mind.

Buddhism does not have a resurrection.

[scott7278]

"Jesus came to show us that the material world is not real. That is, there is no physical law. That is why he walked on water. That is why he healed. That is why he raised himself from the dead.

Jesus did not want to be worshipped."

You're wrong. The miracles proved that He is Lord over the material world. There is physical law -- it's just that God is not bound by it. You need to read the Bible from authorial intent, not from your new-age perspective.

Of course Jesus wants to be worshiped -- that's the whole point of John 3, especially verse 14.

[Treeless Branch]

Jesus said: Do not worship me, worship the one who sent me.
Jesus called people who followed God's law his brothers.
The first sentence is clear. Re the 2nd one, people do not worship their brothers.

You must have a "New age" definition of physical law if you truly claim it can be broken. Jesus said those who followed him would do greater things than he. I am sure you are healing the sick and walking on water. Especially since you are holy enough to tell me that I am wrong.

I am actually a Methodist. But considering the tone of your post, you probably think I am going to hell because of that.

[LayoutGuru2]

The 'Matrix'
ABS CBN News, Philippines - 2 hours ago
... If the Matrix films, the most philosophically-challenging movies to be produced ... of
the politics of its makers, then this subliminal equation (Hitler=Bush ...

[Dr._Joseph_Warren]

Cornell West dies in the end, so go ahead and watch it!