Selective Morality (Santorum)

Jewish World Review ^ | May 5, 2003 | Avi Shafran

[ThomasMore]

You're right on the "young woman".(both NRSV and RSV)

Never noticed. Of course, I don't use the RSV version often and never use, unless I'm doing some kind of debate, the NRSV.

I primarily use the NAB.

[ThomasMore]

The only authorized version for Liturgical use in the Catholic Church is the NAB. Anyone using other translations, especially the NRSV (which is gender inclusive language), are doing so illicitly.

Deacon TM

[Nick Danger]

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Don't forget -- special Mystery Republican beating next week, you won't want to miss it. Come on back and find out who our panel of liberal reporters will name as "Republican in the Barrel" next.

[tpaine]

But if said libertarian is truly true, he or she would have to accept incest - intimate relations between a brother and his sister, for example, or a father and his adult daughter - as well as polygamous and polyandrous (multi-husband) arrangements, and bestiality (which has its advocates, like Princeton Professor Peter Singer) no less than homosexual relations.
Haa!

So far I have seen no "civil libertarian" who would admit to this.
17 -k2-


Constitutional liberatrians have no need to 'accept' such bad logic.
I can personally deplore all these disgusting sexual 'sins'.. And still realise that our constitution does not allow the criminalization of such consensual private behavior, by any level of government.
We are not to be deprived of a private life, liberty under the rule of law, or the possession of private proprerty, without due process of law.
Such moral prohibitions are not due process, they are 'sin decrees' made by majority will.
This is still a free republic, not a democratic tyranny.

[k2blader]

I can personally deplore all these disgusting sexual 'sins'.. And still realise that our constitution does not allow the criminalization of such consensual private behavior, by any level of government.

Do you think incest and bestiality should be legal?

Yes or No?

[tpaine]

Depends on how the laws are written.
Very hard to write a constitutionally enforcable law on consensual incest, imo.
Bestility is already criminalized as animal abuse.

Do you think a state law on prohibiting all dangerous behavior should be legal?

Yes or No?

[k2blader]

I can personally deplore all these disgusting sexual 'sins'.. And still realise that our constitution does not allow the criminalization of such consensual private behavior, by any level of government.

"Depends on how the laws are written."

Er.

[tpaine]

"Er"?


Speechless are you, - in the face of constitutional fact? Good for you.

[k2blader]

Not speechless.

Just wondering if you noticed the inconsistency of your two posts.

And if you're interested in constitutional fact, may I suggest reading Bowers vs. Hardwick.

;-)

[tpaine]

Just wondering if you noticed the inconsistency of your two posts.

You are speechlessly unable to point out those 'inconsistencies', or you would.

And if you're interested in constitutional fact, may I suggest reading Bowers vs. Hardwick.

Again, make your point.
Why should I have to guess at it by reading that decision?

[k2blader]

You are speechlessly unable to point out those 'inconsistencies', or you would.

Nah. I just don't think it's worth it to try to explain why X Y.

Why should I have to guess at it by reading that decision?

Because Bowers vs. Hardwick addresses your concerns regarding constitutional fact better than I ever could.

[tpaine]

Whatever.
-- You can't make your point if you can't post it.

[k2blader]

You really don't see the discrepancy?

[tpaine]

No.

Can the coy act. Make a point or shut up.

[k2blader]

I'll try to explain as I can see this is causing you needless vexation.

Your post #26:

I can personally deplore all these disgusting sexual 'sins'.. And still realise that our constitution does not allow the criminalization of such consensual private behavior, by any level of government.

Then, in response to my question(s) "Do you think incest and bestiality should be legal? Yes or No?", your post #28:

Depends on how the laws are written.

So if, in your mind, the Constitution "does not allow the criminalization of such consensual private behavior, by any level of government," why would you then say the legality of incest and bestiality "depends on how the laws are written"?

[tpaine]

Learn to read. I wrote:


I can personally deplore all these disgusting sexual 'sins'.. And still realise that our constitution does not allow the criminalization of such consensual private behavior, by any level of government.
We are not to be deprived of a private life, liberty under the rule of law, or the possession of private proprerty, without due process of law.
Such moral prohibitions are not due process, they are 'sin decrees' made by majority will.
This is still a free republic, not a democratic tyranny.
26 -tpaine-

Depends on how the laws are written.
Very hard to write a constitutionally enforcable law on consensual incest, imo.
Bestility is already criminalized as animal abuse.

Do you think a state law on prohibiting all dangerous behavior should be legal?
Yes or No?
28 -tpaine-

Now, you ask:

"So if, in your mind, the Constitution "does not allow the criminalization of such consensual private behavior, by any level of government," why would you then say the legality of incest and bestiality "depends on how the laws are written"? - "
-k2-


Answered as to bestiality.

The states have the power to reasonably regulate non-private or non-consensual behavior.

Write a law on regulating consensual incest citing a compelling reasonable reason to ignore the 4/5/6th amendments in its enforcement & application. Cite where you find the constitutional power to write such law, bearing in mind the 9/10/14th amendments.

[k2blader]

And this is exactly why I suggested you read Bowers vs. Hardwick.

Have a good day.

[tpaine]

G'day chickie. -- Don't let the coop door hit your tailfeathers on the way out.